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Re: Bye-bye GTi hello R
« Reply #170 on: 25 September 2014, 18:03 »
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Re: Bye-bye GTi hello R
« Reply #171 on: 25 September 2014, 19:17 »
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Hi Fraser, Thanks for getting back to me. I've priced up the Golf R with just the white paint and at cost price +£1 which is the offer we're running on all new cars until the end of September (this also includes 3 years servicing for £199 with the PCP agreement which means there's one less thing to worry about and is spread across your monthly payments) and it works out as follows:- Price of the car - £28,065.25 (usually £30,349 including white paint and servicing at £199)Part exchange for January - £18,000Estimated settlement - £17,255.96Your £1000 deposit then means a full deposit of £1,744.0436 months15,000 miles Gives you- 35 monthly payments of £404.181 final payment of £16,396.20 I hope this helps with your enquiry.

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Re: Bye-bye GTi hello R
« Reply #172 on: 25 September 2014, 19:19 »
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Re: Bye-bye GTi hello R
« Reply #173 on: 25 September 2014, 19:36 »
Email from one of four potential garages...

Hi Fraser, Thanks for getting back to me. I've priced up the Golf R with just the white paint and at cost price +£1 which is the offer we're running on all new cars until the end of September (this also includes 3 years servicing for £199 with the PCP agreement which means there's one less thing to worry about and is spread across your monthly payments) and it works out as follows:- Price of the car - £28,065.25 (usually £30,349 including white paint and servicing at £199) Part exchange for January - £18,000Estimated settlement - £17,255.96Your £1000 deposit then means a full deposit of £1,744.0436 months15,000 miles Gives you- 35 monthly payments of £404.181 final payment of £16,396.20 I hope this helps with your enquiry.

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Thats a 7.5% discount they're offering. Part ex is pretty fair, their final payment of £16396 must be based on your mileage, as standard 10k miles per year on a basic 3dr manual is almost dot on £18k. The additional mileage (15k miles more than average total over 3 years) and the difference in GFV for 10k miles PA and 15k miles PA amounts to 10.69p per mile. excess mileage is charged at 6p per mile + VAT (7.2p per mile).

Declare 10k miles per year and if you do 45k miles total instead of 30k miles they expect, your excess mileage charge will be £524 less than you're losing in your GFV. Declare 10k miles and you will shave about £51 a month off your finance, but be needing a grand to hand back - more likely it'll just eat up your expected £1k equity vs GFV towards your next one. Put £28 a month away to cover the excess mileage charge if you feel you must, to be paying £51 a month less - net monthly gain of £24 a month or £864 over 3 years.

You're getting there, all you need now is to stick with the p/x and squeeze another 4.5% discount. 7.5% discount is not cost, it'll exclude most of their volume and satisfaction margins.
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Re: Bye-bye GTi hello R
« Reply #174 on: 25 September 2014, 20:02 »
So all the R's are gone. They had 3 left and the last one was sold this morning.

They have a TR GTI DSG big screen Nav leather and 19s for a smidge over 29 works out to about 11% off.
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Re: Bye-bye GTi hello R
« Reply #175 on: 25 September 2014, 20:06 »
So all the R's are gone. They had 3 left and the last one was sold this morning.

They have a TR GTI DSG big screen Nav leather and 19s for a smidge over 29 works out to about 11% off.

The papers I saw said 7.5 % basic cost discount. I.e. On the vanilla car. The options are not discounted for them when they purchase. 
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« Reply #176 on: 25 September 2014, 21:59 »
Yeh but 7.5 instead of 12 is a hell of a difference. If these guys want a sale theyl surely come and go

Waiting to hear back from VW Edinburgh, VW Chester and VW Blackburn. Quote above i would expect to be the most expensive for a "vanilla" spec. Looked through options and nothing takes my fancy other than leather and maybe a pan roof or keyless. Will add keyless o vanilla spec as thatl make c*ck all difference to my monthly outgoing, but would love leather or sacrifice it for pano roof. Why i need to get in and see and test drive one of these bad boys. 
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Re: Bye-bye GTi hello R
« Reply #177 on: 25 September 2014, 22:34 »
The guy I saw was very honest re extras etc. O saw the vw order sheet for the dealership. And it says the discount given to them is 7.5% they get is on base price not the car price plus extras. He also tried to explain how the orange wheels and drive the deal works and how dealerships make their money. Just some good insight really. But like MH has said either they give you a mahoosive  discount and a good rate on the PX or alternatively a good discount and a not so good PX. I was only going to do a deal if the sums added up. I'm happy to wait until later on in the year to do it.
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Re: Bye-bye GTi hello R
« Reply #178 on: 25 September 2014, 23:38 »
^ price to change is the real number you need to take note of, a great discount and a sh!te p/x is no good to anyone. 12% and a fair p/x (CAP figure) is achievable locally if they want your business (or maybe my salesman really is that nice!). For anyone wanting to swap a vanilla GTD on a 63 plate for a vanilla 15 plate R, they should be looking to a £9k cost to change. Be realistic with your options,expect them to enhance the vanilla p/x price by 20% of cost and expect same discount on extras as the car achieves via broker deals - theres lots of margin in those extras. I don't consider my deal to be unbeatable (but close to the cusp) look a bit further afield if you get no joy locally.

I wouldn't get too hung up on leather, you can get a decent 3 piece sofa for the price VW wants for leather and there are custom auto leather places that can do you a bespoke re-upholstering in whatever leather colour combination you want for less than £1200 (less than the depreciation you'll experience on the official leather option).
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Re: Bye-bye GTi hello R
« Reply #179 on: 26 September 2014, 10:05 »
Yeh but 7.5 instead of 12 is a hell of a difference. If these guys want a sale theyl surely come and go

Waiting to hear back from VW Edinburgh, VW Chester and VW Blackburn. Quote above i would expect to be the most expensive for a "vanilla" spec. Looked through options and nothing takes my fancy other than leather and maybe a pan roof or keyless. Will add keyless o vanilla spec as thatl make c*ck all difference to my monthly outgoing, but would love leather or sacrifice it for pano roof. Why i need to get in and see and test drive one of these bad boys.

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