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Offline virginVWman

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Re: Bye-bye GTi hello R
« Reply #10 on: 11 September 2014, 13:21 »
Same here ordered an R, my GTD is 3 at christmas and i was looking to get back into a GTI again but with the R pricing structure its a no brainer - well over £100 cheaper per month than the GTI for me. I cannot quite believe how cheap the insurance is either :shocked:.

Are all these cheap deals PCP that you refer to?
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Re: Bye-bye GTi hello R
« Reply #11 on: 11 September 2014, 13:46 »
Same here ordered an R, my GTD is 3 at christmas and i was looking to get back into a GTI again but with the R pricing structure its a no brainer - well over £100 cheaper per month than the GTI for me. I cannot quite believe how cheap the insurance is either :shocked:.

Are all these cheap deals PCP that you refer to?

You beat me to it - I was just about to ask that question...I am paying PCP for my GTi and doing the same thing with the R. I'm not seeing reductions in my monthly costs. However, I am moving from a manual GTi to a DSG R and the GTi is only 12 months old so I would expect an increase (35 quid) per month.
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Re: Bye-bye GTi hello R
« Reply #12 on: 11 September 2014, 14:24 »
Same here ordered an R, my GTD is 3 at christmas and i was looking to get back into a GTI again but with the R pricing structure its a no brainer - well over £100 cheaper per month than the GTI for me. I cannot quite believe how cheap the insurance is either :shocked:.

Are all these cheap deals PCP that you refer to?

You beat me to it - I was just about to ask that question...I am paying PCP for my GTi and doing the same thing with the R. I'm not seeing reductions in my monthly costs. However, I am moving from a manual GTi to a DSG R and the GTi is only 12 months old so I would expect an increase (35 quid) per month.

I'm also on a pcp and my monthlys are going up ever so slightly - but again, I'm going from a manual GTI to a DSG R, and I'm only 1 year into my GTI pcp, so I'm more than happy with a small increase, and think that's acceptable.  I think he may be referring to the cheap lease deals that have been bandied about (3 months up front an a stock R for £250 odd a month) - I believe these have been stopped by VW now as there were some "internal incidents" with regards these, shall we say.
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Re: Bye-bye GTi hello R
« Reply #13 on: 11 September 2014, 15:54 »
Same here ordered an R, my GTD is 3 at christmas and i was looking to get back into a GTI again but with the R pricing structure its a no brainer - well over £100 cheaper per month than the GTI for me. I cannot quite believe how cheap the insurance is either :shocked:.

Are all these cheap deals PCP that you refer to?

You beat me to it - I was just about to ask that question...I am paying PCP for my GTi and doing the same thing with the R. I'm not seeing reductions in my monthly costs. However, I am moving from a manual GTi to a DSG R and the GTi is only 12 months old so I would expect an increase (35 quid) per month.

I'm also on a pcp and my monthlys are going up ever so slightly - but again, I'm going from a manual GTI to a DSG R, and I'm only 1 year into my GTI pcp, so I'm more than happy with a small increase, and think that's acceptable.  I think he may be referring to the cheap lease deals that have been bandied about (3 months up front an a stock R for £250 odd a month) - I believe these have been stopped by VW now as there were some "internal incidents" with regards these, shall we say.

Its a PCP deal through VW not a lease - with the discounts available and the equity in my car and some extra cash in from me the R is coming in at about £100 cheaper than a GTI in the sppec i would want. TBH i cant see it lasting as there are going to be 1000s of golf R's around for sale in three years otherwise which will impact the forecast resale values.

If your paying in full the GTI is more feasible but on PCP its no contest the R will win every time.

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Re: Bye-bye GTi hello R
« Reply #14 on: 14 September 2014, 15:21 »
All good points. What will happen to GFV on PCPs when everyone starts thinking like the good folks on here and the market is flooded with r's
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Re: Bye-bye GTi hello R
« Reply #15 on: 14 September 2014, 16:07 »
^ When GFVs fall to the point that when you look to p/x and there is no equity, you just walk away rather than pay up the stated GFV to keep it (assuming you don't want to keep a hold of it beyond 3 years).

Really trying to resist deals like these, they really make sense if you're already on finance and the R GFV is so high (around a grand more than an S3 coincidentally, even though my local Audi dealer said that the stated GFV was massively cautious and he expected a p/x equity of £3k 36 months down the line). The mpg on the GTD is a complete disappointment for me (as is standard performance) when off the motorway, and the only redeeming factor is the DTUK box. £80 a month more for fuel vs a GTD or maybe £20 a month vs a GTI for those doing average mileage isn't a hell of a lot compared to how much money these cars will cost in depreciation over 3 years and the extra enjoyment you'll probably get with those extra 116/80/70PS. Getting a GTI on PCP instead of an R makes absolutely no sense right now, unless you strongly prefer the looks of the GTI or are young/inexperienced enough for the jump from GTI to R to have a significant effect on your insurance.
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Re: Bye-bye GTi hello R
« Reply #16 on: 14 September 2014, 16:31 »
Trading up to an R is so tempting however the cost to change for me would be too great to justify it at this moment in time. Plus I fear that after the initial wow factor of the additional ponies, I would get bored staring at the same cabin very quickly. My boredom threshold is so low, to a point that after only 6 months I already start to think about what I could get next.

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Re: Bye-bye GTi hello R
« Reply #17 on: 14 September 2014, 18:10 »
Trading up to an R is so tempting however the cost to change for me would be too great to justify it at this moment in time. Plus I fear that after the initial wow factor of the additional ponies, I would get bored staring at the same cabin very quickly. My boredom threshold is so low, to a point that after only 6 months I already start to think about what I could get next.

Not sure whether R cabin after GTD cabin would feel too samey also. For this reason I will probably be getting an S3 next - lovely interior, but feck-all in the way of equipment.  :sad:
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Re: Bye-bye GTi hello R
« Reply #18 on: 14 September 2014, 18:44 »
Trading up to an R is so tempting however the cost to change for me would be too great to justify it at this moment in time. Plus I fear that after the initial wow factor of the additional ponies, I would get bored staring at the same cabin very quickly. My boredom threshold is so low, to a point that after only 6 months I already start to think about what I could get next.

Not sure whether R cabin after GTD cabin would feel too samey also. For this reason I will probably be getting an S3 next - lovely interior, but feck-all in the way of equipment.  :sad:

I think if it was a straight choice between the R and S3 then the R would win for me. The interior is beautiful in the S3 but by all accounts the R is the better drivers car. Both cars are a bit bland to look at and Audi are ridiculously tight when it comes to standard spec.

My attention is definitely drawn towards the M235i just now and they seem quite rare as I've yet to see one on the road. I'll go and have a look at the new TT but it's just not exciting me from what I've read and seen so far.

Hopefully before I change there will be a few more other contenders on the road which may be of interest.

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Re: Bye-bye GTi hello R
« Reply #19 on: 14 September 2014, 19:22 »
I agree on the M235i.....look very smart....shame BMW have not offered more of the 1 and 2 series with x-drive yet.

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