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Offline Chrisbrown.92

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Over Heating Issue
« on: 21 August 2014, 20:34 »
Hi Guy's

Bit of a long story , but here we go . I have a mk2 gold cl 1.3 thats been off the road for about 18 months now. Before i took it off the road I was having a over heating issue . I had the head gasket and water pump replaced but still getting very hot and this is when i took it off the road . I have taken out the thermo so it cant be that and I have bi passed the heater matrix and it is still running hot . It is driving me mad and I can work out why it is getting so warm :angry: , it just seems to creep passed half way and keep going ? any ideas ?

Thanks in advance

Chris

( Also the fan is on a switch which I put on when it gets to half way )

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Re: Over Heating Issue
« Reply #1 on: 21 August 2014, 20:39 »
Is the mix/timing good? I remember when mine was out the exhaust glowed cherry red. Also the internal gauge is complete bs so do t read to much into that. I'm not sure if the 1.3 has another way of reading the temp? Do they have a dash maf?

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Re: Over Heating Issue
« Reply #2 on: 21 August 2014, 20:47 »
Thanks for the reply mate , What do you mean by the mix and timing ? yea i have heard about the temp gauge not sure if there is another way to check the temp ? just want to get it back on the road its been almost two years hah

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Re: Over Heating Issue
« Reply #3 on: 21 August 2014, 21:01 »
The cooling fan is supposed to come on automatically at just above halfway on the gauge, perhaps you should check out the thermostatic switch on the rad? Have you tried replacing the temp sender? It could be giving a false reading. Is the coolant reservoir cap sealing properly? If it does not hold pressure the coolant will boil below working temperature.

Are you sure it is overheating, is there any other evidence apart from the temp gauge reading?

If the fuel mixture is too weak and the ignition timing too advanced then the engine will run hot.

Is this happening when in slow moving traffic or when cruising at a sensible or both?

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Re: Over Heating Issue
« Reply #4 on: 21 August 2014, 21:14 »
Thanks jezza , firstly I cant drive the car at the mo as it hasnt got any mot , tax or insurance so is just on the drive at the mo . I have to fan on a switch as the sender was broken .I changed the water bottle a few years ago so all should be good. It doesnt appear to be boiling up or anything so I suppose it could be a dodgy reader . I am not getting any hot air out of the heaters inside when i didnt have to matrix pipes bi passed and also the bottom pipe on the rad is not as hot as the rest of them , if that is any help ?

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Re: Over Heating Issue
« Reply #5 on: 21 August 2014, 21:29 »
Blocked radiator. Can you run it and feel the radiator. It should be the same temp all over.

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Re: Over Heating Issue
« Reply #6 on: 22 August 2014, 07:30 »
I shoved a Hose Through the heater matrix and the radiator this morning and all seem to be flowing fine ? am going to get a thermometer and see what its actually reading later on today . hoping its the temp sender .

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Re: Over Heating Issue
« Reply #7 on: 22 August 2014, 17:03 »
Thanks jezza , firstly I cant drive the car at the mo as it hasnt got any mot , tax or insurance so is just on the drive at the mo . I have to fan on a switch as the sender was broken .I changed the water bottle a few years ago so all should be good. It doesnt appear to be boiling up or anything so I suppose it could be a dodgy reader . I am not getting any hot air out of the heaters inside when i didnt have to matrix pipes bi passed and also the bottom pipe on the rad is not as hot as the rest of them , if that is any help ?

Well, I guess that's your problem. If the car is not moving and the rad stat does not turn the fan on then the engine will overheat. The car relies on forward movement to drive air through the radiator and keep it cool when stuck in traffic or on your drive, it relies on the rad stat to turn the fan on and off to keep the temperature steady, so by switching the fan on and off manually you are doing exactly what the rad stat would do if it was working. You need to replace the thermostat which you have removed or when you do get out on a run the engine will run cool and you'll get crap mpg and poor heaters. The bottom pipe out of the rad should always be cooler than the top as the hot water comes out of the top of the engine and is cooled by the rad, the cooled water comes back out of the bottom of the rad and goes back into the engine via the water pump.

It seems to me that you do not have a problem at all really, just reinstate the thermostat and put in a new rad stat to turn the fan on and off automatically to save you the hassle of manually switching the fan on. As said, the fan should come on automatically at just above halfway on the gauge. Just check that there is no break in the wiring to the rad stat or it may not switch the fan on as its supposed to.

When idling on your drive, once warmed up the fan should turn on and off at fairly regular intervals to keep the engine at a fairly constant temperature.  J  :wink: