Author Topic: 16v to VR6 engine change  (Read 8308 times)

Offline Foreveryoungaus16v

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Re: 16v to VR6 engine change
« Reply #20 on: 16 June 2014, 08:43 »
The basic mods are not that expensive apart from the gearbox and headwork obviously.

Modified airbox you can do yourself.  K&N filter, £40.

Lightened balanced flywheel,  £60 (replace clutch at same time)

Sports exhaust,  £350 or buy used. I bought used Jetex for £140

Cold air feed, dirt cheep.

Chipped ecu, £35

Those are the basic mods before the serious money. But like I said sort the handling

brakes and breathing mods out first. I would not say the Vr6 is a powerhouse. It can

be modified to be though as mentioned but nothing comes cheap in this world!
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Re: 16v to VR6 engine change
« Reply #21 on: 16 June 2014, 09:35 »
The only reason you buy a vr6 is for noise  :evil:
Same with r32, seriously why you you get one over a s3 or golf r other than noise? 

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Re: 16v to VR6 engine change
« Reply #22 on: 16 June 2014, 20:21 »
The basic mods are not that expensive apart from the gearbox and headwork obviously.

Modified airbox you can do yourself.  K&N filter, £40.

Lightened balanced flywheel,  £60 (replace clutch at same time)

Sports exhaust,  £350 or buy used. I bought used Jetex for £140

Cold air feed, dirt cheep.

Chipped ecu, £35

Those are the basic mods before the serious money. But like I said sort the handling

brakes and breathing mods out first. I would not say the Vr6 is a powerhouse. It can

be modified to be though as mentioned but nothing comes cheap in this world!
Who has any of these? I can't seem to find these items?

Offline Foreveryoungaus16v

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Re: 16v to VR6 engine change
« Reply #23 on: 16 June 2014, 20:43 »
Its all been covered loads. Use google and research.
« Last Edit: 16 June 2014, 20:45 by Foreveryoungaus16v »

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163 BHP (TSR POWER RUN)

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Re: 16v to VR6 engine change
« Reply #24 on: 16 June 2014, 21:25 »
Stick with the 16v and mod it.

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Re: 16v to VR6 engine change
« Reply #25 on: 19 June 2014, 22:46 »
3 pages and no one has mentioned the furry of the ABF or the anchor weight of the VR6.
Keep it nimble, keep it light, keep it 4 cylinder

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Re: 16v to VR6 engine change
« Reply #26 on: 19 June 2014, 23:27 »
3 pages and no one has mentioned the furry of the ABF or the anchor weight of the VR6.
Keep it nimble, keep it light, keep it 4 cylinder
Keep it nimble keep it light, surely you are talking about a Mk2 16v? :wink:
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Re: 16v to VR6 engine change
« Reply #27 on: 20 June 2014, 00:02 »
A few thoughts:
A VR6 is FAR easier to get to 190+ BHP than a 16v...even a true 175BHP ABF isn't the basic bolt ons people seem to think.
A 190+ ABF is still bloody awful on standard gearing.
..so is a VR6 for that matter.
A VR6 will always handle worse than an ABF.
A 190+ BHP ABF is far nicer to drive than a 190 BHP 1.8T...and faster on a back road/track.

Sure, you can throw money at an ABF and get 210 BHP...but throw the same money at the a properly built A VR6, and the VR6 is so much quicker that it's far better spread of torque/power overcome it's ill handling on corners.

I built a 208 BHP/200lb-ft 2.9 VR6 that revved like a banchee and had turbo-like torque...and not even the best ABFs would keep this thing behind them. Hell, in a Mk3 Golf, it stuck with my 911 C4S up to 130+ MPH.

VR6s are lazy revving, inefficient lumps standard...but sorted, they can be mighty impressive.

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Re: 16v to VR6 engine change
« Reply #28 on: 20 June 2014, 10:09 »
If you really want a vr6 lump instead of the 16v then you go for it. Just do the research and know exactly what you're in for and remember sometimes you never know what work needs doing until you're elbow deep in oil and carbon goop.

Everyone's comments above are incredibly informative, after reading them all I don't think I'd be able to choose, pros and cons to both!

For me ill keep my 16v for a while as it's not even on the road or been driven yet, and it sounds like they do have untapped potential.

Agree with the comment about the vr6 being inefficient, an extra 25 bhp for 10 mpg less than the 16v!! For the same money you'll pay in fuel you could have a scoobie wrx sti lol.

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Re: 16v to VR6 engine change
« Reply #29 on: 20 June 2014, 16:06 »
If you really want a vr6 lump instead of the 16v then you go for it. Just do the research and know exactly what you're in for and remember sometimes you never know what work needs doing until you're elbow deep in oil and carbon goop.

Everyone's comments above are incredibly informative, after reading them all I don't think I'd be able to choose, pros and cons to both!

For me ill keep my 16v for a while as it's not even on the road or been driven yet, and it sounds like they do have untapped potential.

Agree with the comment about the vr6 being inefficient, an extra 25 bhp for 10 mpg less than the 16v!! For the same money you'll pay in fuel you could have a scoobie wrx sti lol.

Yes but both rear bearings only cost £12 on a golf lol im sure a scoob will be a lot more.

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