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Offline littlelordfonts

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Tuning box
« on: 20 April 2014, 13:54 »
Hi

Can anyone list the pros and cons of a tuning box?
The best tuning boxes recommended for 220bhp mk7 gti
Ease of removing for warranty issues?
Is it detectable in anyway?
Insurance notification issues?
Discounts or prices links?

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Offline Adam

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Re: Tuning box
« Reply #1 on: 20 April 2014, 15:16 »
Depends on what you define as a "Tuning Box"..

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Offline Jimmy Filth

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Re: Tuning box
« Reply #2 on: 20 April 2014, 16:27 »
I believe you want to speak to Andrew at DTUK, who is on here.

You would definitely have to tell your insurance and be prepared to lose the warranty if something goes wrong.

Another thing to consider is the amount of power you would be putting through the front wheels of a car that is pretty near perfect balance as it is, especially as the fact you quote 220bhp suggests you don't have the PP and therefore no mechanical diff and smaller brakes.
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Offline Darlo

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Re: Tuning box
« Reply #3 on: 20 April 2014, 18:04 »
I've got the DTUK box and I'm made up with the results. It handles the extra power with zero issues despite being front wheel drive, mine is a none pp. Mpg is unchanged. As for warranty issues, easily removed so if I do have any issues I will just take it out. Very happy with it

Offline Ross Detours

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Re: Tuning box
« Reply #4 on: 20 April 2014, 18:15 »
You'll find loads more info and opinions if  you use the search function!  :smiley:

Offline Jimmy Filth

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Re: Tuning box
« Reply #5 on: 20 April 2014, 18:30 »
My comment wasn't an 'anti' comment by the way, just giving you something to think about.  I'm ordering one for my R.

I have been warned that VCDS may be able to pick up that one has been used and flag the car, although not sure how much of that was scare mongering.  I'm yet to find feedback from anyone that has had one of these boxes and a VCDS check done.

Saying that I'm not too concerned as have heard nothing but positive feedback from users of DTUK.
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Re: Tuning box
« Reply #6 on: 20 April 2014, 19:12 »
My comment wasn't an 'anti' comment by the way, just giving you something to think about.  I'm ordering one for my R.

I have been warned that VCDS may be able to pick up that one has been used and flag the car, although not sure how much of that was scare mongering.  I'm yet to find feedback from anyone that has had one of these boxes and a VCDS check done.

Saying that I'm not too concerned as have heard nothing but positive feedback from users of DTUK.

I trial ran DTUK box on a friends mk7 GTI 'company development car' which they had for a few weeks around Xmas and New Year time. They've since taken delivery of a 14 plate GTI non PP in identical spec too as they were so impressed with that car.
Anyway, I fitted the box to that car for a while and when I removed it again before the car left their tenure I ran a VCDS scan on it and nothing showed out of the ordinary, no fault codes whatsoever but maybe if you ran VCDS logs of it during driving you could see slightly different values to a standard car possibly? I can't answer that as I didn't get chance to try it.
So basically fault code wise the box is invisible to VCDS at present.
However dealer diagnostics might well be able to pick up its presence as boost levels will differ to standard. But they'd have to be looking for it, and I don't see why they'd look for it unless they had a beef with you.
I can't see how the DTUK box could possibly cause extra wear on the car unless you drove like an idiot all of the time and to be honest the standard car would suffer likewise if you did.
The DTUK box doesn't spin the turbo crazy fast at 2000rpm like a lot of remaps so the torque and power graphs look pretty much like standard but you just get a bit more, thus you won't be lunching dump valves and clutches as the power increase is very subtle and just feels factory smooth.
Fuel economy, as above, it was pretty much the same as before but this was a very low mileage car and wasn't thrashed.

Insurance wise you'd be silly not to inform your insurer as you have a big plastic box with a light on it and a wiring loom to give the game away! Andrew at DTUK can advise on insurance anyway.

There's a forum discount available from DTUK.
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Re: Tuning box
« Reply #7 on: 20 April 2014, 20:22 »
You won't see anything via VCDS as the whole idea of a tuning box is to fool the ecu into thinking it is getting standard readings for various parameters. From what I've heard the only time any fault codes should come up is from connecting the tuning box which may give out of range readings from the short time the sensors are unplugged.

Definitely inform your insurance company about any mods on the car though!
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Re: Tuning box
« Reply #8 on: 21 April 2014, 08:45 »
Thanks, great information
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Offline Jimmy Filth

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Re: Tuning box
« Reply #9 on: 21 April 2014, 16:04 »
Thanks for the update about VCDS.  Will definitely be getting one as soon as my car has done 1000 miles.
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