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Offline Jimmy Filth

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Re: Golf R 400 full press release
« Reply #60 on: 30 April 2014, 18:06 »
To give a better indication I originally spec'd up a GTI with keyless, winter pack and metallic paint. It was £326pcm

An R with the same extra's was £12 a month more. I'm currently paying £344pcm on my R that has Pret's, leather, keyless, winter pack and DCC.  Although the leather isn't taken into account as I paid for that up front on the deposit.  It would have added £30pcm.
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Re: Golf R 400 full press release
« Reply #61 on: 30 April 2014, 18:09 »
What in recent times have we got to go on? Never mind the 'not really limited editions because we sold loads more oops sorry'.

A1 quattro - 41k, 333 made and sold out no problem.

Beetle RSI - 52k, 250 made in 2006.

The Rallye the PR name checks was approx 25% more than a GTI at the time... so I guess that puts it at around 36k.

I feel that if I go and ask about an R400 at the local dealer they will look at me like  :huh:
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Re: Golf R 400 full press release
« Reply #62 on: 30 April 2014, 18:09 »

[/quote] I could have bought the Golf R but decided against it as was too subtle imo.
The Golf R400 has those lovely wide arches :)
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I'm not a fan either of the subtle looks of the R but in hindsight I would definitely have waited if I had known the price differential between it and the GTI was so small. I could have lived with the looks for the sake of 300bhp
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Re: Golf R 400 full press release
« Reply #63 on: 30 April 2014, 22:37 »
A three year old RS3 is still over £30,000.  The decent ones are over £33,000, so in 3 years have done well considering it was a £40k car.  In fact a fair few of them are over £35,000.

For every £30k 3 year old RS3, you have someone who part-exed it for £24k or maybe a little less if the dealership is greedy. Take any used forecourt car and the previous owner will have only seen 80% of the sticker price in part ex at best. £40k to £24k and that car has retained 60% of RRP, probably had a realistic GFV of 55% (£22k) and the dealer has added in £2k "equity" to sweeten the pot against the next car. Residuals to me are always about what i've lost in the ownership term, not RRP to 3 year old used forecourt sticker price.

More will be willing to drop this kind of money (£40-45k) on something with an Audi badge than a VW badge if these aren't seriously exclusive in the number out there.
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Re: Golf R 400 full press release
« Reply #64 on: 01 May 2014, 06:08 »
What in recent times have we got to go on? Never mind the 'not really limited editions because we sold loads more oops sorry'.

A1 quattro - 41k, 333 made and sold out no problem.

Beetle RSI - 52k, 250 made in 2006.

The Rallye the PR name checks was approx 25% more than a GTI at the time... so I guess that puts it at around 36k.

I feel that if I go and ask about an R400 at the local dealer they will look at me like  :huh:

You're right the dealers, unless a total petrol head, won't have a clue.

The single spec idea above May be a realistic one.

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Re: Golf R 400 full press release
« Reply #65 on: 01 May 2014, 09:21 »
What in recent times have we got to go on? Never mind the 'not really limited editions because we sold loads more oops sorry'.

A1 quattro - 41k, 333 made and sold out no problem.

Beetle RSI - 52k, 250 made in 2006.

The Rallye the PR name checks was approx 25% more than a GTI at the time... so I guess that puts it at around 36k.

I feel that if I go and ask about an R400 at the local dealer they will look at me like  :huh:

You're right the dealers, unless a total petrol head, won't have a clue.

The single spec idea above May be a realistic one.

My dealership is quite good but I do have a very close relationship with them.... they know I am a Volkswagen nut  :rolleyes:

I think Volkswagen should do the one spec, one colour, limited run production... :)
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Re: Golf R 400 full press release
« Reply #66 on: 01 May 2014, 09:35 »
To give a better indication I originally spec'd up a GTI with keyless, winter pack and metallic paint. It was £326pcm

An R with the same extra's was £12 a month more. I'm currently paying £344pcm on my R that has Pret's, leather, keyless, winter pack and DCC.  Although the leather isn't taken into account as I paid for that up front on the deposit.  It would have added £30pcm.

Bloody hell that's cheap, what deposit did you put down if you don't mind me asking?
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Re: Golf R 400 full press release
« Reply #67 on: 01 May 2014, 14:30 »
I initially was putting down £5000 but added leather and put down £7000 so that the monthly payment was kept down.  That also includes £30 PCM service plan so I never pay for tyres or brake components.  The £326 for the GTi was also based on £5000 down IIRC
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Re: Golf R 400 full press release
« Reply #68 on: 01 May 2014, 14:38 »
Mine was...

£8500 deposit
£297.10pm over 36 months
15k miles pa
Final baloon payment of approx £12k

I thought that was ok.
I also saved £3936 off the list price.


Back on topic..... it really appeals to me that a car like the Golf R400 with its performance won't cost sports car money to maintain... afterall its still a Volkswagen.

I predict that the production version will be shown at a motorshow early 2015 with a summer launch.
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Re: Golf R 400 full press release
« Reply #69 on: 01 May 2014, 15:34 »
My monthly payments would have been £299 with a £8500 deposit and that includes the £30 a month maintenance.  I got near as make no odds £4000 off the car too, 15,000 miles a year and £17,400 balloon payment.

That may seem off topic, but it proves that with the finance/lease options a £40,000 R400 may actually be very affordable because of the residuals. 

And yeah, the performance compared to running costs is much better than most of the conpetition. 
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