Author Topic: Hey everyone, need some help on this Mk3 8v GTi I may buy  (Read 8040 times)

Offline teamspb

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Re: Hey everyone, need some help on this Mk3 8v GTi I may buy
« Reply #10 on: 08 April 2014, 21:01 »
You will need the pedal box off a valver and fab it into the car.
Late 8v had the brackets ready to go, what year is it?
You don't need hydro unless you are going for power, which would be an engine and box change anyway.
I'd save the money until then.

Patches on the sills is only a temp fix imo, also budget for some floor/inner sill work to join the new outer sill section.

Sun roof can be a real pita, check the drains first a search on here will throw up loads of information.

Rust is your main enemy, it's been sitting and you know about the sills.
I'm betting you have a few bungs rotted out and others, so check thoroughly before you take on Mk3  :grin:
Every thing else is easy and cheap.

TBH, if the vehicle stays with me for a year or so, then it will be going big power, circa 650hp from a Valver should be interesting. We build plenty of fast cars so want to build one for myself again (previous being 430hp Focus RS Mk1 with C63 AMG brakes, and before that a 520hp Zetec Turbo Escort RS Turbo S2)

Ill just get it running right for now and use it as my work horse until I decide what to do with it.

This is a VERY early model - 92 or 93 (J plate)…so I doubt it will have the necessary brackets in place for a hydro conversion. Out of curiosity, what work is involved? Welding brackets etc in to?

Inner sills appear to be fine, but time will tell when I peel the kit back to see whats lurking underneath.

Thing is, for the price I'm going to pay (less than £100), its worth the gamble! If it doesn't work out, I can make the money back just by scrapping the car!

Ill search for the sunroof leak problem, I'm hoping its just a seal or something…if its something major, might just make the perfect excuse to cut the roof off and go for a carbon roof instead!

Thank you all for the great input so far! I will hopefully be going to see it tomorrow again and hope to get it moving!

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Re: Hey everyone, need some help on this Mk3 8v GTi I may buy
« Reply #11 on: 08 April 2014, 21:11 »
I had a MK3 1992 GTi it was 2 years old, low mileage and a terrible car even then. I had a MK2 GTi 16V prior to that and the build quality on the MK3 was appaling in comparison. If the car has been unsed for so long, there will  be all kinds of problems, sounds as though the syncromesh is going on the gearbox, it will be a moneypit and no end of trouble. Stay well clear.

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Re: Hey everyone, need some help on this Mk3 8v GTi I may buy
« Reply #12 on: 08 April 2014, 23:48 »
TBH, if the vehicle stays with me for a year or so, then it will be going big power, circa 650hp from a Valver should be interesting.

 :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: you would be better to look at a 1.8t conversion even then that power if it could be done (which I doubt tbh) is not going to be cheap.

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Re: Hey everyone, need some help on this Mk3 8v GTi I may buy
« Reply #13 on: 09 April 2014, 12:23 »
Plenty of 16vT around with over 600hp over in europe...the head on a 16v actually outflows a 20vT so we are already at a head start over a 1.8T and we have more CC's to get the turbo spooling.

The T61 on my Zetec turbo (2048cc) was on full boost by 3800rpm (36psi) and redlined at 7.8k so had a lovely power band...

Not sure if ill use the same turbo on the Mk3 yet or go for one of the EFR turbos...time will tell

Money is no issue, everything is built in house, just need to source the parts...if you look carefully you can have them cheap enough.

Dont expect anything for happen for a year or so yet though lol!

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Re: Hey everyone, need some help on this Mk3 8v GTi I may buy
« Reply #14 on: 09 April 2014, 12:24 »
I had a MK3 1992 GTi it was 2 years old, low mileage and a terrible car even then. I had a MK2 GTi 16V prior to that and the build quality on the MK3 was appaling in comparison. If the car has been unsed for so long, there will  be all kinds of problems, sounds as though the syncromesh is going on the gearbox, it will be a moneypit and no end of trouble. Stay well clear.

Thanks for the heads up, if the syncromesh is going then gearboxes can be had cheap enough I suppose...even if I can rebuild the exisiting gearbox then I may go down that route....hopefully the test drive will reveal more

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Re: Hey everyone, need some help on this Mk3 8v GTi I may buy
« Reply #15 on: 09 April 2014, 13:18 »
I had a MK3 1992 GTi it was 2 years old, low mileage and a terrible car even then. I had a MK2 GTi 16V prior to that and the build quality on the MK3 was appaling in comparison. If the car has been unsed for so long, there will  be all kinds of problems, sounds as though the syncromesh is going on the gearbox, it will be a moneypit and no end of trouble. Stay well clear.

Thanks for the heads up, if the syncromesh is going then gearboxes can be had cheap enough I suppose...even if I can rebuild the exisiting gearbox then I may go down that route....hopefully the test drive will reveal more
Synchro is easy enough to fix, if you do a rebuild then a bolted diff kit is essential.
Either that or just buy a scrapper box with 3 months ticket
They are not bad boxes contrary to popular opinion, most fail due to excessive miles and boy racer style rally changes :grin:

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Re: Hey everyone, need some help on this Mk3 8v GTi I may buy
« Reply #16 on: 09 April 2014, 13:26 »
Your cars you do what you want but I am always amazed by people that put that much power in a fwd car. Just seems a waste.
A mate of mine has a 450bhp mk2 focus rs and that just spins 1st 2nd 3rd. Spins all day long in 4th if its wet.
Why not 4wd or rwd?
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Re: Hey everyone, need some help on this Mk3 8v GTi I may buy
« Reply #17 on: 09 April 2014, 14:06 »
Admittedly that does sound a big excessive. :laugh:

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Re: Hey everyone, need some help on this Mk3 8v GTi I may buy
« Reply #18 on: 09 April 2014, 17:59 »
I love excessive LOL! I dont drag race so putting the power down in first and second are no real issue, my focus used to light up the tires in third no issue until I put the Neuton's on it.

TBH you can put the power down in FWD if you pedal it right...ive never had problems putting the power down in any gear and a bit of wheel spin can be fun lol

I am however toying with the idea of a R32 DSG conversion...BUT first things first, I need the car to be running right and iron out its existing problems before I think of going big power etc...

For the next year or so it will be my workhorse and nothing else...after that, it may be my toy or it will be scrapped lol

But thanks to all for your inputs! Its greatly appreciated and has helped me ALOT!

Im off to see the car tonight so will update tomorrow with what happens

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Re: Hey everyone, need some help on this Mk3 8v GTi I may buy
« Reply #19 on: 09 April 2014, 20:42 »
i bought a mk3 that had been stood for just over 2 years for £150 , although its a few years younger than yours , i had the same issue , mine wouldnt get into reverse , 1st or 5th, in my case it turned out to be just abit stiff, a good spray of all the linkages with lube and a good run and mine freed up a treat, ive been using it as a daily for almost a year now and the gearbox has had no issues and runs a treat, good luck !