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Offline PorkerBus

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Hi all,

Apologies if this has already been discussed. I have a 2013 GTD with Composition Media system (no nav) and I've managed to purchase and fit the Discover Navigation Pro. I was advised I would need to get a dealer to remove 'component protection' before the units would work but after trying a couple of dealers they're not interested in helping, so right now I have a very expensive screen and head unit (in the glovebox) that only allow bluetooth connectivity and nothing else.

Can anyone help with getting them working? Based in north London if anyone knows somehwere I can go.

Thanks

Offline JoeGTI

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Re: Removing Component Protection - Discover Navigation Pro
« Reply #1 on: 19 March 2014, 21:03 »
Very interesting. This is the first retro fit I've heard of in the mk7 and this also proves the rumours that VW have tied the units to specific chassis numbers to reduce the theft / black market. The eBay market for RNS units in the mk5/6 was and still is huge!

Was there much work involved in fitting the unit??

Sorry, this is no help to your problem...
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Re: Removing Component Protection - Discover Navigation Pro
« Reply #2 on: 19 March 2014, 22:19 »
Hi Joe

I'm no expert but the swap over was fairly simple, the original unit was Panasonic, the Discover is Alpine. A few connectors needed trimming but it was a 30 minute job.

The advice before buying was remove 'component protection' as mentioned before. Ive seen on a number of forums people talking about using VCDS for progamming various bits from lights to their MFD so I dont know if this would extend to resolving this issue.

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Re: Removing Component Protection - Discover Navigation Pro
« Reply #3 on: 19 March 2014, 22:31 »
Have you looked on line at "component protection" there are loads of articles on Audi. Which I would imagine would be the same as VW

I only had a quick look as I was interested in how it worked but one forum suggests there is a place in London that will remove it but no name given! You'll have to do some digging
http://www.audi-sport.net/vb/general-automotive-chat/197471-component-protection-independent-specialists.html

Other places like below are saying the dealer will do it free of charge only if its not on the stolen list!!
http://www.audi-resource.com/componentprotection.php

EDIT: you need to find an indy that has "Autologic Diagnostic System"
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Offline JoeGTI

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Re: Removing Component Protection - Discover Navigation Pro
« Reply #4 on: 19 March 2014, 22:42 »
Hi Joe

I'm no expert but the swap over was fairly simple, the original unit was Panasonic, the Discover is Alpine. A few connectors needed trimming but it was a 30 minute job.

The advice before buying was remove 'component protection' as mentioned before. Ive seen on a number of forums people talking about using VCDS for progamming various bits from lights to their MFD so I dont know if this would extend to resolving this issue.

Yeah, there's a huge thread on here for VCDS tweaks and I've done several of them on mine. I wonder is vcds tweak all you need to get around this issue? Maybe it's just a case of knowing what vcds settings to tweak.... In the mk5/6 it was just a case of having the security code for the unit. As predicted, it's not so simple in the mk7.


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Re: Removing Component Protection - Discover Navigation Pro
« Reply #5 on: 19 March 2014, 23:01 »
Don't know how this works as its not loading fully but this eBay advert can remove it for Audi so maybe contact him?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AUDI-COMPONENT-PROTECTION-REMOVE-FULL-DIAGNOSTIC-/160710983143
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Re: Removing Component Protection - Discover Navigation Pro
« Reply #6 on: 20 March 2014, 07:08 »
Vcds won't remove security protection for the radio. You'll need something like vag commander or what has been mentioned in previous posts. Dealers do seem totally unwilling to help in instances like these but to be fair they aren't computer techs and only really plug a cable into your car. The rest cones from Germany.
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Re: Removing Component Protection - Discover Navigation Pro
« Reply #7 on: 20 March 2014, 07:42 »
Just out of interest - how expensive was the pro nav unit?  Did you have to add the shark fin Ariel to the roof as well?
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Re: Removing Component Protection - Discover Navigation Pro
« Reply #8 on: 20 March 2014, 22:15 »
Thanks everyone for your suggestions so far, i had a vag specialist take a look today and although he managed to connect to the servers in Germany it would not allow him to remove the component protection. It would appear i need a dealer or similar to send a DISS request/ report direct to the factory so they can approve the equipment for my GTD.

After trying 3 dealers I'm no further forwards, if anyone has any suggestions on how to oversome this please let me know.

As for the kit, I was advised the aerial's are all the same (they're in the rear window) so a different version wasn't needed. Unfortunately as no one (dealer or other) has tried to do this before this is complete speculation until when, and if I can get the component protection removed.

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Re: Removing Component Protection - Discover Navigation Pro
« Reply #9 on: 21 March 2014, 07:45 »
Hi Porkerbus,

I have the standard CMS system at the moment with no nav and the aerial etc is located in the rear window.  As far as I'm aware though, people with Nav and Pro Nav have a shark fin on the roof as well?  Will be interesting to see if it works without this.
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