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Offline 914Phil

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ACC & Performance Pack
« on: 09 March 2014, 10:22 »
Morning mk7 owners, I have been lurking for some time considering either a mark 6 or mark 7 purchase. My budget means I am restricted to nearly new pre reg or ex demo mark 7's and I note that there aren't many that seem to have been specified with both the Performance pack and ACC, and I wondered what the views were of owners who either had both or who had one but not the other? Hope this makes sense? I test drove a "non PP" but with ACC equipped car at Ashford which I was very impressed with but missed out on due to my dilly dallying over which way to go..... I'm looking to pull the trigger on a purchase this month so interested in views. Im also interested in views of the std nav versus the Pro but that is pretty well covered in other threads!
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Offline davyk31

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Re: ACC & Performance Pack
« Reply #1 on: 09 March 2014, 12:38 »
Why limit yourself to used cars when they are often as expensive as new ones with a decent discount? When I was looking none of the used ones made financial sense especially once the low interest rates on the new cars was factored in.
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Offline 914Phil

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Re: ACC & Performance Pack
« Reply #2 on: 09 March 2014, 13:28 »
Fair point and I need to get some quotes on new, I had preferred to avoid PCP or HP as I need flexibility to sell if circumstances change, I can get a bank rate of 4.9% and thus far this looks the cheapest and most flexible way of financing, I am opting out of company car scheme so my priorities are around getting the right monthly payment. I am trying to preserve any cash I can to get my 914 back on the road. I had intended to get a late mk6 as being the best overall compromise but then a couple of mark 7's started to drop near to mk6 prices hence my interest. The Ashford car went for £23 -£23.5 in end, so a sensible gap to new price. Second hand market for both mk6's and 7's is a bit messy at the moment as and plenty of cars haven been advertised since November/December as a result.......

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Re: ACC & Performance Pack
« Reply #3 on: 09 March 2014, 13:31 »
I have both if by ACC you mean Adaptive Cruise Control, then ACC is in use almost continuously with me - on the motorway and in queueing town traffic.

As for the extra 10HP with the performance pack, along with the differential and bigger brakes with red callipers - how often are they used? Rarely by me...

Offline 914Phil

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Re: ACC & Performance Pack
« Reply #4 on: 09 March 2014, 15:02 »
Sorry I may have the acronym mixed up I mean Adaptive Chassis Control

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Re: ACC & Performance Pack
« Reply #5 on: 09 March 2014, 15:24 »
Sorry I may have the acronym mixed up I mean Adaptive Chassis Control
Nope, it's VW UK that got mixed up. DCC = Dynamic Chassis Control is what the system is called in other markets.

The only big benefit for me with DCC is the difference in the suspension between 'sport', 'normal' and 'comfort'. I think the standard GTi comes with 15mm lower and so-called sports suspension compared to the rest of the range. I would not like to drive a long journey in that mode. It is a hard setting and DCC allows a gentler ride for long-distance cruising. If you have DSG you get sport mode with the gears anyway...

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Re: ACC & Performance Pack
« Reply #6 on: 09 March 2014, 15:31 »
What was ACC on a mk6 is now called DCC due to the front radar cruise control now taking over the mantle of ACC. Yes it is confusing!

A 914 eh? Wow, can't be many of those left.

I have PP but no DCC (Dynamic Chassis Control or something similar) and the car rides fine.

If you like driving along constantly playing about with settings rather than looking at the road or if you have five mins to spare before setting off on each journey to piss about with various 'profiles' then you'll love DCC.
I wouldn't mind betting most owners (gadget freaks and car anoraks aside) play about with the DCC settings non stop for the first few days and then leave it in 'normal' for the rest of their tenure with maybe the odd play with it when they remember they have it six months down the line before switching it back to 'normal'.
Unless you are very fussy about the ride (i.e.. not a traditional hot hatchback driver) then you'll find the standard suspension excellent. Better than that in fact.
I put my old set of BBS 19s on from my mk6 the other week and have only driven about 50 miles or so with them on since but they do make the ride a bit knobbly thanks to requiring well over 40 psi unlike the mk6 which just ran standard pressures.

Unless you have a p/x I'd see what deals are on new GTI's via brokers unless you're really desperate for a car. Don't pay silly money for an ex-demo and if going for a new one be sensible on the options or it will get into R territory and you won't see the money back.

And yes, I've saved the best bit til last.
If you enjoy a bit of spirited driving then go for the PP. The diff really is a bit special.
Unless you've tried it you won't ever appreciate how good it is.
A 914 is sort of mid-engined so you'll be used to how that handles (mind you I've no idea how good the suspension or tyres are on those things!!!), and a GTI traditionally understeers like a good 'un.
With the PP the VAQ e-diff will make your GTI feel like a mid engined car. Forget the usual front wheel drive habit of understeering in bends, just bury the pedal and the car goes around the corner like it's hardly there.
A mk7 GTI drives fine without the PP or DCC but they're that bit better with either/both.
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Offline GiT1984

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Re: ACC & Performance Pack
« Reply #7 on: 12 March 2014, 12:14 »
Like Exonian - I have both and I'm incredibly impressed with the results for the money!

Unlike some on here, I think there is a very noticeable difference between the suspension in Comfort and Sport modes (but this might be down to tyres as I suspect that my Conti's are more pliant and the Bridgestones are harder all the time). Day to day I drive it in Normal, which I think is a mite softer than the standard suspension, with Sport being a few notches harder than standard. A very good compromise for commuting comfort versus a fun drive.

The PP is amazing - the brakes have more power and progression than any standard VW I've ever driven, the diff produces stunning traction off junctions and pulls you into the apex of roundabouts (even with your foot on the floor). I can't feel the extra power, but somehow my car feels more "torquey" than the higher mileage (but standard) demo I drove .... It must be the best £900 I've ever spent!

The selectability of the "Individual" setting does indeed wear off after a few days, but I think it's also good to have so many options and have the car the way you want it .....
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