golf gti vs golf gti pp

[monsta]

Let's not forget the desirability of the PP car when it comes to resale...

Two simple reasons why I specced the PP

1) I firmly believe that a GTI with PP is going to be more sought after in the second hand market and therefore be worth more. It's one of the few options to me that adds value due to it's appeal to potential buyers

2) It will inevitably happen one day that you will be sat at a set of traffic lights and another GTI will pull up alongside with the PP. Knowing that  their car is slightly better than yours would annoy me immensely, but that's just me. 

I'm very unlikely to ever track my car or mod it to any massive extent. I'm not very likely to absolutely rag it either but I still wanted the PP and it was absolutely the first thing on my wish list and the last thing I would get rid of

Same here!  I had to buy the fastest factory GTI I could or I'd regret it 

[Geomets]

19" wheels that perform better on track.

Do they? And why might that be?

The 19" tyres have lower profile and this is an advantage on fast corners due to the more rigid sidewalls. On road it is a complete waste of money because the tarmac is not as smooth as in the track and you will see no advantage. I ordered my PP with the (standard here) 17" Brooklyns. And I must say that the PP is phenomenal in wet hairpins. I found it out the other day as it kept its line and pushed me to the inside of the turn while I was feeding the power before the apex. Money well spent, very happy indeed.

[harryhackenbacker]

Excellent piece of Kit , and with DCC and 19's for looks ,possible to set it up for a multitude of driving styles ,
and road conditions ,Great Car . 

[mullermn]

For me, same as Craig and Monsta.. I didn't want to spend ~£30k and have to feel like I didn't get the best golf there was.

Ofcourse now the R has come out

[2014GTi]

For me, same as Craig and Monsta.. I didn't want to spend ~£30k and have to feel like I didn't get the best golf there was.

Ofcourse now the R has come out

Don't worry, the Golf R doesn't have the VAQ so it will probably understeer like most other Haldex 4WD systems.... Volkswagen have missed a trick, they should have added VAQ to the Golf R on both the front and rear axel. 

[corgi]

The 19" tyres have lower profile and this is an advantage on fast corners due to the more rigid sidewalls. On road it is a complete waste of money because the tarmac is not as smooth as in the track and you will see no advantage. I ordered my PP with the (standard here) 17" Brooklyns. And I must say that the PP is phenomenal in wet hairpins. I found it out the other day as it kept its line and pushed me to the inside of the turn while I was feeding the power before the apex. Money well spent, very happy indeed.

You're right in theory, if and only if, the suspension maintains a consistent contact patch under load i.e. when the suspension is loaded there are no changes in geometry... which is unlikely. Then there is the discussion about mass, how does the mass of the 18" wheel/tyre combo compare with the 19"?

Side wall stiffness is one (small) aspect... bigger is not always better when it comes to grip, never mind handling...

[GrahamFR]

The 19" tyres have lower profile and this is an advantage on fast corners due to the more rigid sidewalls. On road it is a complete waste of money because the tarmac is not as smooth as in the track and you will see no advantage. I ordered my PP with the (standard here) 17" Brooklyns. And I must say that the PP is phenomenal in wet hairpins. I found it out the other day as it kept its line and pushed me to the inside of the turn while I was feeding the power before the apex. Money well spent, very happy indeed.

You're right in theory, if and only if, the suspension maintains a consistent contact patch under load i.e. when the suspension is loaded there are no changes in geometry... which is unlikely. Then there is the discussion about mass, how does the mass of the 18" wheel/tyre combo compare with the 19"?

Side wall stiffness is one (small) aspect... bigger is not always better when it comes to grip, never mind handling...

I'm sure I read a report from Honda when they were facelifting the nsx that 16" was the best for performance. What sizes do they use at the btcc?

[dubber36]

What sizes do they use at the btcc?

10J x 18

[mojo555]

For me, same as Craig and Monsta.. I didn't want to spend ~£30k and have to feel like I didn't get the best golf there was.

Ofcourse now the R has come out

Don't worry, the Golf R doesn't have the VAQ so it will probably understeer like most other Haldex 4WD systems.... Volkswagen have missed a trick, they should have added VAQ to the Golf R on both the front and rear axel. 

What's VAQUERO.

[CraigW]

For me, same as Craig and Monsta.. I didn't want to spend ~£30k and have to feel like I didn't get the best golf there was.

Ofcourse now the R has come out

Don't worry, the Golf R doesn't have the VAQ so it will probably understeer like most other Haldex 4WD systems.... Volkswagen have missed a trick, they should have added VAQ to the Golf R on both the front and rear axel. 

What's VAQUERO.

http://youtu.be/HQqh2Tv5Puc