DCC - how good is it?

[corgi]

It wouldn't surprise me. It's going back into the dealers as soon as they stop ignoring my phone calls. The car is excellent but the 26 average MPG & squeaky front suspension doesn't fill me with confidence that everything's fine. Oh and the front camber setting is out on one side.

26mpg? I get that (or better) from my 911 in general driving.

As for the front camber setting... is that causing you any issues? Last I heard you were saying the car felt fine..?

[monsta]

I had a quick look at the front suspension (without jacking the car up) and I can't see or feel any evidence of transport pucks, but I guess that's not the only thing that could be causing an issue.

The salesman told me the suspension works by magnetising particles in the shock absorbers, perhaps there is an electrical fault there?

[monkeyhanger]

I had a quick look at the front suspension (without jacking the car up) and I can't see or feel any evidence of transport pucks, but I guess that's not the only thing that could be causing an issue.

The salesman told me the suspension works by magnetising particles in the shock absorbers, perhaps there is an electrical fault there?

I think you are describing Audi’s magnetic ride system. Liquid in the shocks can be induced with magnetic fields to be more or less viscous and affect the damping. VWs ACC/DCC system works on hydraulically controlled dampers that shorten or lengthen their length of travel.

Unless ACC/DCC MK2 has ditched the hydraulic system that was seen in the MK1 system (as seen on the Scirocco as standard) and adopted Audi’s magnetic ride

[Jimble]

Yeah i think the VW version is hydraulic, the main difference between the first and second version is that it can now control individual corners rather than across an axle.

Could still be electrical though, the valves are electronically controlled.

[corgi]

I think you are describing Audi’s magnetic ride system. Liquid in the shocks can be induced with magnetic fields to be more or less viscous and affect the damping. VWs ACC/DCC system works on hydraulically controlled dampers that shorten or lengthen their length of travel.

Unless ACC/DCC MK2 has ditched the hydraulic system that was seen in the MK1 system (as seen on the Scirocco as standard) and adopted Audi’s magnetic ride

I believe that the VW system does not seek to directly increase or reduce the suspension travel but you are right in saying that it does adjust the damping.

As I understand it the springs are essentially the same as on a non-DCC car so the eletro-hydraulic dampers adjust the compression and rebound only. This system achieves similar results to the magnetic system in the Audi but, I suspect that the VW system offers greater variance and control...

[wigit]

i never thought i'd spec DCC after having it on the Rocco, weekend of it on a MK7 GTI and box was ticked for the R, for me the fact you can now have the opportunity to have a custom setting for how you want the car is a big factor, not everyone want's lighter steering and a softer ride

[monkeyhanger]

Not sure why the VAG group, who share everything, would develop 2 completely different systems that do the same thing. I think they probably do the task in hand similarly well and for a similar cost otherwise VAG would have binned one of the systems by now.

[corgi]

Not sure why the VAG group, who share everything, would develop 2 completely different systems that do the same thing. I think they probably do the task in hand similarly well and for a similar cost otherwise VAG would have binned one of the systems by now.

Or it may be - like "quattro" - that two systems make sense haldex and permanent... both do effectively the same job the costs differ... and they've both been around for years.

I suspect that VAG believes that each has its place in certain segments of the market... hence two systems...

[Geomets]

Not sure why the VAG group, who share everything, would develop 2 completely different systems that do the same thing. I think they probably do the task in hand similarly well and for a similar cost otherwise VAG would have binned one of the systems by now.

Exactly. It's as on the Audis. Shock absorbers are filled with fluid which has metallic particles in it. There are two magnets (in the gen2 system). When electrical current is applied, they tend to attract the metallic particles in their place, reducing the diameter of the tube and thus the fluid which goes through them. The clever bit is that it's infinitely variable according to the voltage applied to the magnets.

[Mr Savage]

It wouldn't surprise me. It's going back into the dealers as soon as they stop ignoring my phone calls. The car is excellent but the 26 average MPG & squeaky front suspension doesn't fill me with confidence that everything's fine. Oh and the front camber setting is out on one side.

26mpg? I get that (or better) from my 911 in general driving.

As for the front camber setting... is that causing you any issues? Last I heard you were saying the car felt fine..?

Tell me about it. I managed 25mpg on the way home from work today in Eco mode? lol. Tell me this isn't normal. I've worked out that I've used around 4 tanks of fuel over 1100 miles, so I'm not even getting 300 miles out of a full tank. It's costing me an arm and a leg to run.

The car does drive fine, I was just ranting about it and might aswell get the dealer to look at that while they're at it.