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Offline GTI7me

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MK7 GTI - Lowered
« on: 19 November 2013, 09:11 »
Did a little photoshopping the other day to have a look at what the GTI would look like with a approx 50mm drop. I think it looks very very pretty  :cool: :cool:



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Re: MK7 GTI - Lowered
« Reply #1 on: 19 November 2013, 09:50 »
Check out the VWR GTI which is only 35mm I think

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=260080.0

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Re: MK7 GTI - Lowered
« Reply #2 on: 19 November 2013, 10:23 »
I like that a lot! :cool: good skills on the photoshop as well mate. :afro:
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Re: MK7 GTI - Lowered
« Reply #3 on: 19 November 2013, 11:30 »
Good Photoshop job that.....

We are looking at various options for lowering a bit.....50mm would be no much for us....im leaning towards the Eibach springs lowering about 25mm front and 15mm rear.

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Re: MK7 GTI - Lowered
« Reply #4 on: 19 November 2013, 11:33 »
Ha, that's how my GTD looked the other day with a full load  :grin: :grin:
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Re: MK7 GTI - Lowered
« Reply #5 on: 20 November 2013, 13:29 »
How would that effect cars with ACC fitted?

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Re: MK7 GTI - Lowered
« Reply #6 on: 20 November 2013, 14:06 »
How would that effect cars with ACC fitted?

ACC is linked to the dampers, some springs may give a stiffer ride, some i have sampled actually ride better

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Re: MK7 GTI - Lowered
« Reply #7 on: 21 November 2013, 15:06 »
ACC is linked to the dampers, some springs may give a stiffer ride, some i have sampled actually ride better

A stiffer ride is not necessarily worse because in the terms you're talking ride is subjective.

There are many considerations but in general, if you lower the car you will have less suspension travel and in order to mitigate continually bouncing off the bump stops because of this reduced travel these lowering springs will normally be stiffer. Now you might find that by lowering the car (and re-aligning the suspension) that the car grips better (it may also handle better but handling's subjective) but in the real world where roads are not billiard table smooth you might find that the car actually generates less grip (and handles worse because you are struggling to keep the wheels in contact with the road)...

In the end, it depends why you are lowering the car. If you are doing it because you think it improves the look of the car that's great but remember you might make the car more uncomfortable and worse to drive.

If you are doing it to improve the grip/handling... then be careful... there is a very real chance that you will do the exact opposite. I'm not saying improvements cannot be made but what I am saying is that in trying to improve the car you might make it worse or even if you do find an improvement it is likely that this improvement will only be realised in certain circumstances.
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Re: MK7 GTI - Lowered
« Reply #8 on: 21 November 2013, 17:02 »
ACC is linked to the dampers, some springs may give a stiffer ride, some i have sampled actually ride better

A stiffer ride is not necessarily worse because in the terms you're talking ride is subjective.

There are many considerations but in general, if you lower the car you will have less suspension travel and in order to mitigate continually bouncing off the bump stops because of this reduced travel these lowering springs will normally be stiffer. Now you might find that by lowering the car (and re-aligning the suspension) that the car grips better (it may also handle better but handling's subjective) but in the real world where roads are not billiard table smooth you might find that the car actually generates less grip (and handles worse because you are struggling to keep the wheels in contact with the road)...

In the end, it depends why you are lowering the car. If you are doing it because you think it improves the look of the car that's great but remember you might make the car more uncomfortable and worse to drive.

If you are doing it to improve the grip/handling... then be careful... there is a very real chance that you will do the exact opposite. I'm not saying improvements cannot be made but what I am saying is that in trying to improve the car you might make it worse or even if you do find an improvement it is likely that this improvement will only be realised in certain circumstances.

Totally agree with you. After all, VW spent enough time and money to find the best balance (according to their standards) between handling and comfort (that's why we bought a GTI, isn't it?). Of course there is room for improvement, because these characteristics are subjective up to a point. But upgrading components should be made after serious thinking of what you want and how you get it.

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Re: MK7 GTI - Lowered
« Reply #9 on: 21 November 2013, 17:33 »
Corgi i don't think i made any comment about it being worse and some greta comments which i will never run single way adjustable coil overs and why i like my dampers and springs from certain companies

Been lucky to have a day to day comparison with two cars same platform and engine one with a decent aftermarket suspension set up to how i like the car to behave and one without

I thought the adaptive chassis control was excellent on the MK7 GTI and so compliant hence why i went for it on the R as was way better than our two previous generations

I'm sure some will lower on £200 worth of cheap coil overs in a a year so