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Offline karlak

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Disabling the adaptive part of cruise control ?
« on: 15 November 2013, 22:51 »
Just curious if it is possible to disable the "adaptive" part of the cruise control ?

I have this feature on my current car and sometimes find it a bit of a nuisance.

 Say when you are approaching a car in the inside lane of a dual carriageway, and want to overtake.  A car is approaching in the outside lane quite quickly, so i need to wait until it has passed. The adaptive cruise kicks in and starts to slow me down way sooner than necessary and I could have happily carried on at my present speed until the car on the outside passed me, then pulled out and overtaken.  But, now the car has slowed down too much and accelerates away when i do pull out after the car has passed.  Makes for a less smooth drive and uses more fuel on the acceleration.

70% of the time I find it very good, but just wish there was times I could use the cruise like a standard system.  Perhaps the VW system is better ?

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Re: Disabling the adaptive part of cruise control ?
« Reply #1 on: 16 November 2013, 07:36 »
I haven't see any option in the settings to disable it - may be possible with a VCDS tweak?  Have you got the distance set to minimum?  I have to admit, surprisingly, the adaptive cruise is one of the defining features of the car for me - never thought it would be as useful as I have found it to be.
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Re: Disabling the adaptive part of cruise control ?
« Reply #2 on: 16 November 2013, 07:38 »
Just curious if it is possible to disable the "adaptive" part of the cruise control ?

I have this feature on my current car and sometimes find it a bit of a nuisance.

 Say when you are approaching a car in the inside lane of a dual carriageway, and want to overtake.  A car is approaching in the outside lane quite quickly, so i need to wait until it has passed. The adaptive cruise kicks in and starts to slow me down way sooner than necessary and I could have happily carried on at my present speed until the car on the outside passed me, then pulled out and overtaken.  But, now the car has slowed down too much and accelerates away when i do pull out after the car has passed.  Makes for a less smooth drive and uses more fuel on the acceleration.

70% of the time I find it very good, but just wish there was times I could use the cruise like a standard system.  Perhaps the VW system is better ?

My experience so far is its excellent, it seems very intuitive and doesn't intervene unnecessarily..... However the option to switch to normal speed based cruise control is there via a button on the steering wheel
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Re: Disabling the adaptive part of cruise control ?
« Reply #3 on: 16 November 2013, 10:00 »
The reason I ask is that I have it on my Focus.  It does seem to sense the vehicle ahead very ealry on and starts reducing speed much much quicker than I would choose to, even set on the "closest" option.

Not normally an issue if I am not going to overtake, but if judging the approach speed with a gap in the outside lane can be a slight pain.  Although, this can be overcome by using the throttle to "override" the slowing down.  Just kind of defeats the object of having the adaptive side of things.

A software update could no doubt reduce the sensitivity.  There are also a coupe of roads i use where a sharpish corner in the carriageway means that the radar picks up a vehicle in the other lane and thinks it is in front of you.  Overall a great piece of tech though and has passengers in the car amazed when they see it in operation :).  Amazing when you think that this would have only been on expensive exec cars a few years back.

 
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Re: Disabling the adaptive part of cruise control ?
« Reply #4 on: 16 November 2013, 10:09 »
I haven't see any option in the settings to disable it - may be possible with a VCDS tweak?  Have you got the distance set to minimum?  I have to admit, surprisingly, the adaptive cruise is one of the defining features of the car for me - never thought it would be as useful as I have found it to be.

On my GTI there is a "mode" button on the left hand side which switches between ACC and normal cruise control....
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Re: Disabling the adaptive part of cruise control ?
« Reply #5 on: 16 November 2013, 22:49 »
I haven't see any option in the settings to disable it - may be possible with a VCDS tweak?  Have you got the distance set to minimum?  I have to admit, surprisingly, the adaptive cruise is one of the defining features of the car for me - never thought it would be as useful as I have found it to be.

On my GTI there is a "mode" button on the left hand side which switches between ACC and normal cruise control....
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I thought the " mode" button on the left hand side switched between ACC and speed limiter ?
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Re: Disabling the adaptive part of cruise control ?
« Reply #6 on: 16 November 2013, 23:59 »
Speed limited is normal cruise control..... i.e you limit the speed
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Re: Disabling the adaptive part of cruise control ?
« Reply #7 on: 17 November 2013, 10:21 »
Speed limited is normal cruise control..... i.e you limit the speed

Cruise control is where you set a speed for the car to run at automatically all the time.

A speed limiter sets a maximum speed the car can run to but you have to operate the accelerator yourself and it will not allow you to exceed that set speed

Does your mode button do something different then ?

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Re: Disabling the adaptive part of cruise control ?
« Reply #8 on: 17 November 2013, 21:12 »
Used the ADC quite a bit the other day, and you can take over the acceleration of the vehicle at any time and it returns to ADC as soon as you lift foot off accelerator after manoeuvre.

So in the scenario of a car coming outside you can take over the pace/car to get in position would like and then overtake then let it naturally return to ADC.

If brake at all the ADC goes passive and you take over the car until press RES and it becomes active again.

Was particularly good in 50 mph average speed limits through contraflows as kept a nice distance and a constant law abiding speed.

The DSG alone has removed one of my biggest annoyances of being on and off clutch in congestion and if add in the ADC then more so - One tip is not to set distance at limit as all that happens is cars fill the gap so have it short to medium and that happens less.

Think have a good mind set to this and other aids as very much just see them as assistance and no more.

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Re: Disabling the adaptive part of cruise control ?
« Reply #9 on: 18 November 2013, 00:34 »
I would think caution is needed here as any VCDS tinkering that removed or reduced the effectivness of what is considered a safety feature (that affects insurance rating of the car) would be insurer notifiable as a mod. If carried out and not notified there could well be serious insurance implications in the event of a claim involving a collision.