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Offline davemk4

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whys no one use aftermarket cams on a 1.8t?
« on: 20 October 2013, 17:23 »
even though i have no interest in messing with my cams. ive yet to see a member with aftermarket cams? how come as for sake of fitting them you get good gains? wouldnt this be good to do for stage 2?
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Re: whys no one use aftermarket cams on a 1.8t?
« Reply #1 on: 20 October 2013, 17:45 »
Pair of cams £450? BHP gain 20? (if your lucky)
Remap £450? Gain 50bhp?

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Re: whys no one use aftermarket cams on a 1.8t?
« Reply #2 on: 20 October 2013, 17:56 »
Pair of cams £450? BHP gain 20? (if your lucky)
Remap £450? Gain 50bhp?

ye but if you were wanting as much power as possible without maybe changing turbo and the extras needed. this would mean a big power stage 2 remap at a guess?
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Re: whys no one use aftermarket cams on a 1.8t?
« Reply #3 on: 20 October 2013, 18:06 »
They can be a bit of a false economy with modern forced induction engines.


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Re: whys no one use aftermarket cams on a 1.8t?
« Reply #4 on: 20 October 2013, 18:29 »
NA 1.8 20V cams giv good gains don't they?

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Re: whys no one use aftermarket cams on a 1.8t?
« Reply #5 on: 20 October 2013, 19:08 »
you can get massive power gains on turbo engines before you have to consider a cam swap.

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Re: whys no one use aftermarket cams on a 1.8t?
« Reply #6 on: 20 October 2013, 20:36 »
From what I have gathered the isn't much to be gained from cam swaps on 1.8t's.
Prawn did the 1.8n/a cam swap on his and the gains were debatable as he gained a tiny amount in one part of the rev range but lost it in another.

I'm still waiting to be convinced its worth the effort!


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Re: whys no one use aftermarket cams on a 1.8t?
« Reply #7 on: 20 October 2013, 21:05 »
They quote 15bhp + on cam websites iirc.
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Re: whys no one use aftermarket cams on a 1.8t?
« Reply #8 on: 20 October 2013, 21:07 »
Any actual evidence though using back to back dyno runs?

I've also seen manifolds and exhausts that quote "upto +20bhp" etc


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Re: whys no one use aftermarket cams on a 1.8t?
« Reply #9 on: 21 October 2013, 11:33 »
Aren't the turbos limited to around 230-250 max, so where would you fit this extra (debatable 20bhp)