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[CraigW]

At £32k the BMW 320d would be getting my attention. Arguably a better car than the GTD

[monkeyhanger]

At £32k the BMW 320d would be getting my attention. Arguably a better car than the GTD

Rep mobile. Arguably better in what way? Same power (give or take a few PS either way), but VAG unit is smoother and noticeably quieter (BMW 2.0D is very rattly from cold). Standard equipment slightly better on the GTD, amazing handling for a front wheel drive car, no sh!tty run flat Fred Flintstone tyres. Looks a bigger car but interior space is about the same. £6k more for a car that pretty much does the same thing, similar performance, less well equipped and is pretty staid inside and out.  44% GFV on the BMW vs 56% on the GTD (admittedly extensive options will bring this down, but the GTD with £6k equipment will be worth around £2k more than the BMW after 3 years).

[CraigW]

At £32k the BMW 320d would be getting my attention. Arguably a better car than the GTD

Rep mobile. Arguably better in what way? Same power (give or take a few PS either way), but VAG unit is smoother and noticeably quieter (BMW 2.0D is very rattly from cold). Standard equipment slightly better on the GTD, amazing handling for a front wheel drive car, no sh!tty run flat Fred Flintstone tyres. Looks a bigger car but interior space is about the same. £6k more for a car that pretty much does the same thing, similar performance, less well equipped and is pretty staid inside and out.  44% GFV on the BMW vs 56% on the GTD (admittedly extensive options will bring this down, but the GTD with £6k equipment will be worth around £2k more than the BMW after 3 years).

Ok let me rephrase that. At £32k I would not be buying either a GTI or GTD because I do not believe it represents value for money. IMO BMW are a class above VW and in my eyes a more premium brand so if it was me my £32k would be heading in the direction of BMW.

Plus going by what most of you guys are saying on the TDI thread regarding mpg, the GTD appears to be fairing pretty badly just now whereas the 320D by all accounts is a very economical machine. Is mpg not one of the principal reasons why you went down the GTD route?

[hastd2]

Well I disagree with the BMW being a better car!!!
I have a X1 2.0d M Sport, and has had a new Transfer box fitted last October and just last month was in again to the dealers with the same problem, this time the garage changed the oil on the transfer box to quieten the noise, and that was it fixed!!!....eh don't think so!!!
On our way from Aberdeen to Manchester on route to our holiday the noise starts again and even worse to be honest.
So have lost all faith and not a happy bunny with John Clark BMW Aberdeen!!!!
Shower of Tw@ts just tell you what you want to hear.....

So 2 weeks ago I ordered a new Gti from Hawco Peterhead with a BW50
Was a VAG man most of my driving days, and for some reason we tried a BMW, so in the future I will tale you this, I won't be going near them ever again!!!

Rant over......Gti hurry up 

[monkeyhanger]

If you've been in a 1 or 3 series lately you'll know they're not better inside or out than a MK7 Golf. They have plenty of mechanical issues of their own - my cousin has just been stung for the common issue of butterfly valve dropping off the turbo assembly and doing a lot of damage, just out of warranty, £1600 bill. BMW will not help him out at all and refuse to acknowledge it as a common fault even though there is plenty of forum buzz for people having the same issues.

Comparatively woeful residual values for a German car make the BMW 320D a bad buy too. When you're paying £32k out for a car residuals matter. I'd be more tempted to spend £32k on an Audi A5. The BMW brand has taken quite a hit as a "premium" brand in the last few years as they've agressively replaced the Mondeo as the rep car with the 3 series and 1 series are very easy to get a hold of. Audi and Merc seem to hold far mare prestige right now. I do agree that a fully loaded GTI/GTD with £6k worth of extras is £4.5k wasted purely from a financial point of view. but a GTI and a GTD hold more of an interest to the passing motorist than one of an army of BMW 320Ds you see up and down the motorways, even if a basic one costs less.

Don't see many people clamouring to buy a BMW 320D privately, they get bought in large volumes through fleet and then all get dumped on the market via auction at 3 years old - the main reason their residuals are so low.

From a mpg point of view it is early days for the GTD - hoping for mpg to climb appreciably up to 5k miles. People in the 2.0TDI (150PS) GTs have been reporting this on other forums (well most have).

[Climb_Ne]

Getting back on topic I'm bw03 next year also on a gtd. I ordered start of Sep. I'm hoping once bw gets confirmed it might creep forward but even so delivery is looking like early next year

[Ginagee]

Getting back on topic I'm bw03 next year also on a gtd. I ordered start of Sep. I'm hoping once bw gets confirmed it might creep forward but even so delivery is looking like early next year

Just seems like a lottery as to what BW you get - doesn't appear to have relevance to when it was ordered, with poor you at the the sh*t end of the extreme. Anyway you look at it, it don't make much sense. Plus there's other chaps still in build at BW38/9, while some BW40's are now with their owners.
Anyway, must not grumble, at the end of the day (when it does happen) we'll all be chuffed to bits, and the wait will have been very much worth it.