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Offline GOLF-MK3-GTI

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Re: refusing to start in cold mornings
« Reply #20 on: 08 November 2013, 16:11 »
I think its either an earth issue or get the engine compression checked.

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Re: refusing to start in cold mornings
« Reply #21 on: 08 November 2013, 16:40 »
See the funny thing is, the car has never cut off (unless i stall it like a spaz) :grin:
Im going to have a look at the earth toms. Got a 90amp alternator, will bang that on & will buy a new crank sensor as the old one is quiet bad but i have taped the naked wires up.
Will also replace the a hose going from the intake to the brake servo bob thing lol
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Re: refusing to start in cold mornings
« Reply #22 on: 11 November 2013, 11:38 »
check timing on dizzy. my passat had the same problem...it was the dizzy timing..


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Re: refusing to start in cold mornings
« Reply #23 on: 11 November 2013, 20:25 »
check timing on dizzy. my passat had the same problem...it was the dizzy timing..

I would expect it to have a 5000rpm limit if timing was out (then again how many mk3 owners go near there?)
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Re: refusing to start in cold mornings
« Reply #24 on: 11 November 2013, 20:53 »
check timing on dizzy. my passat had the same problem...it was the dizzy timing..

I would expect it to have a 5000rpm limit if timing was out (then again how many mk3 owners go near there?)

My dizzy was shot on my 2E, really bad lagging problems up to 3k, arm had about an inch of play and was causing a hard, rough cold start, misfire, overfuel ect. New dizzy improved the problem but the timing was way off (and there was no mark on the flywheel to use a timing light either). Anyway long story short, never had the 5k problem so assumed the timing was fine... timed it by hand using trial and error, rotating the dizzy - it fixed a multitude of problems.

I assume you have bought a genuine temp senor as well, the ones from GSF caused more problems on mine than they did good. Hope you fix it, I spent a good 3 months this year pulling my hair out over a similar problem.

edit: also if you buy a new/used dizzy, just be careful it matches the one in your car as the differing ECUs set the timing differently. There are two different types. One has one slot cut in the casing so it sets the timing from the first contact only, the one I needed had 4 so it keeps track the whole way round - right pain in the ass.
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Re: refusing to start in cold mornings
« Reply #25 on: 11 November 2013, 21:24 »
Once the car is running there is no rev limiter problem the engine picks it speed up just the way it ment to. The coolant temp sender is working fine (i disconnected it and the temp needle didnt move from the cold line). I replaced the brake cylinder hose from inlet as the old one was broken and hissing after i turned the car off. I also cleaned the throttle body today as its not been cleaned for over 2 years but i aint done near 3k miles per year (so was pretty clean). Getting a crank sensor toms as my old one has the wires exposed and as a temp fix i have taped each wire up. Also my unc said it might be earth wire as golf mk3 gti has said. So i will replace crank and alternator and then earth wires.
Could someone tell me were all the earth wires are?
The main earth goes from battery to starter
1 on the gearbox
1 to the coil pack from side of the head
1 ment to connect to the bonnet but that broke of years ago lol
Which have a missed?
« Last Edit: 11 November 2013, 21:28 by sharki786 »
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Re: refusing to start in cold mornings
« Reply #26 on: 11 November 2013, 23:47 »
There's earth wires under the battery tray. That's all there.

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Re: refusing to start in cold mornings
« Reply #27 on: 12 November 2013, 10:33 »
There's earth wires under the battery tray. That's all there.

Cool. Il check them out then. Only thing i hate is that im going to loose all the settings on my headunit unless i write them down lol.

Well car started fine today morning did take a second but nowere near as bad as it was yesterday. I looked at the temp on the trip computer and it was 9'c. Yesterday i had to give it 3 long cranks (dont want to burn the starter out as its brand new)
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Re: refusing to start in cold mornings
« Reply #28 on: 12 November 2013, 15:16 »
Ok another thing i forgot to mention lol. Once the car has been started and if i turn it off and start it within 1min it will start but after 5mins (water temp half way) it will take 2 cranks
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Re: refusing to start in cold mornings
« Reply #29 on: 12 November 2013, 22:47 »
Give a check of any engine codes. Also could be condensation buildup in the earlh mornings on some components. Found with the celica i owned that spraying a bit of wd40 on the spark plugs and HT lead connectors either end made a big difference on starting up even when left for a few days in the cold.

Edit: forget what i said, i keep forgetting its possible for a thread to be on more than one page.
« Last Edit: 12 November 2013, 22:50 by .kiz »