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Re: Do GTis use up oil?
« Reply #10 on: 25 September 2013, 21:44 »
Yes normal.

5w 30.

Buy good oil, not cheap crap

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Re: Do GTis use up oil?
« Reply #11 on: 25 September 2013, 23:28 »
OK thanks for confirmation. Is this stuff any good? http://amzn.to/1bGNU6J , which brands are good?

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Re: Do GTis use up oil?
« Reply #12 on: 26 September 2013, 00:13 »
ALL the vw's i've had have been heavy on oil to start with.  but after a good stretch of hard work they stop

get the same when rebult them before as well,  the more stick you give them the sooner they stop useing oil
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Re: Do GTis use up oil?
« Reply #13 on: 26 September 2013, 08:04 »
ALL the vw's i've had have been heavy on oil to start with.  but after a good stretch of hard work they stop

get the same when rebult them before as well,  the more stick you give them the sooner they stop useing oil


Im sorry but this maybe the case for you but not most.
My gti that I bought with 25,000 sold it with 36,000 never not once dropped in oil level.
My vr6 with 82,000 miles used a bit of oil.
My b6 audi avant with 136,000 miles used a litre about every 200 miles. I then changed it to 10w40 that made it a bit better.

I cant see how engines use oil at start of life then gradually stop.

Maybe you can explain the mechanics of it

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Re: Do GTis use up oil?
« Reply #14 on: 26 September 2013, 09:07 »
The GTI does like a drop of oil. If you are doing short journeys it will drink it

Just buy the oil from your local dealer; its as cheap as anything else and you know you are putting the correct stuff in the engine  :wink:

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Re: Do GTis use up oil?
« Reply #15 on: 26 September 2013, 10:10 »
ALL the vw's i've had have been heavy on oil to start with.  but after a good stretch of hard work they stop

get the same when rebult them before as well,  the more stick you give them the sooner they stop useing oil


Im sorry but this maybe the case for you but not most.
My gti that I bought with 25,000 sold it with 36,000 never not once dropped in oil level.
My vr6 with 82,000 miles used a bit of oil.
My b6 audi avant with 136,000 miles used a litre about every 200 miles. I then changed it to 10w40 that made it a bit better.

I cant see how engines use oil at start of life then gradually stop.

Maybe you can explain the mechanics of it

I'm with tweed on this one,

My MK3 GTI is on 145,000 and believe it or not, it does not use oil and its on the road always (Local & motorway).

The VR6 i had was on 85,000 and never used oil.

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Re: Do GTis use up oil?
« Reply #16 on: 26 September 2013, 17:40 »
The garage that filled my car with oil said that the newer car engines are more prone to be the ones that use lots of oil. So if you have GTi prior to MK5 then you might be less likley to have oil thristy engine.

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Re: Do GTis use up oil?
« Reply #17 on: 26 September 2013, 20:26 »
engines will tend to use oil when they are fresh, oil consumption will fall right off for most of the enignes servicable life then when it's knackerd it'll burn oil again.

it's not uncommon to get engines that haven't setteled during there initial running in period

this is basicly where the roughness on the bores has been polished off by the rings without wearing them enough usual culprit is engines not been worked enough to get enough cylinder pressure for long enogh to force the rings into the cylinder  and make them wear,   once the initial roughness is gone this wear still happens but at a much reduced rate higher cyl pressure encorage it to happen faster.

the mk5 thats sat outside used to use a littel oil when it new, think it used a couple of liters in it's first 10 - 15k  it's never needed a top up since it's done 140k now
my old 1.8T passat had done 220 k when it died  it didn't use oil
my mk2 golf has done 180k  it dosent use oil ( used to when i got it )

the vans show it best of all tho.  all of them that have been used for short trips and bimbeling around need oil toping up between services,  the vans that do the rough heavy work and hard towing  don't need topping up between services.

genorators also show the same trend.  i've got a genset here admitedly it's about f**ked  it's done 10,000 clock hours, in the last 500 hours it's started to use oil ( as it's dyeing )  it used to use a bit of oil but after about 200 hours of hard work it stoped useing oil and never need oil topping up between changes for over 7000 clock hours.

new ones never done any hard work ( standby genny )   it burns about 1ltr a day atm   so it's ether knackerd @ sub 500 hours or going to stop useing oil at some point.

sounds like your audi was fit for scrap burning 1ltr ever 200 miles.   i don't tolerate oil burning much  it gets a chance to stop or it gets rebuilt
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Re: Do GTis use up oil?
« Reply #18 on: 26 September 2013, 21:12 »
Im sorry but I just cant see the logic behind that. I understand perfectly what your saying, I just dont believe that once the rings have bedded in the bores that oil consumption stops.

Ive taken loads of heads off cars and you will always get scores down the bore and black carbon lines down the piston. This obviously is where the oil will escape.


Plus with all the research I done when I had my b6 audi was that the gap in the valve stem seals was fractional bigger than previous but still with in tolerance.
Hench the more miles you do the more they wear out.


Maybe jaygolfgti you should go to a garage and get it tested to see where the oil is escaping from.


With every single car ive had the more miles its done the more oil it uses.

I also get new van for work every 2/3 years. When new they never use oil but at about 60,000 I notice I carry a litre bottle of oil in the van to top up. Same goes with our sprinter and old t5 that done 250,000.
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Re: Do GTis use up oil?
« Reply #19 on: 26 September 2013, 22:06 »
i've allways found that when wear related oil consumption comes it develops quite fast.

i've had heavy oil consumption from turbos before, and heavy leacking from seals on high mileage motors but it's all service parts really.

some of the 2.4 transits use oil like it's going out of fasion but they arn't burning it they leack it, in the new year they'll get hauled into the workshop steamcleaned and offending oil seals and gaskets changed and they likely stop useing oil.

stem seals i find often fail more to do with AGE rather than clock hours or miles,  guides get changed when heads are off.

but it is well know amonst those of us who run a lot of engines for lots of hours in what is a rather more controled enviroment than a car, that engines that have done meany hours at low load will burn oil give them  hard work and oil consumption will often drop over time.

yes there dose come a point where oil consumption goes up again because it's knackerd and the only way you'll fix that is a rebuild.   

you will not allways get scores down the bore  often yes  but a well mantaned motor can have clean bores,  tend to find they scratch the bores and pistons up after a big overheat or been run withoout filters or with collapsed filters
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