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Offline monkeyhanger

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Re: PCP anyone..?
« Reply #10 on: 20 August 2013, 18:01 »
Whats to stop the OP saying he is doing 10K a year, which will bring the monthly payments down, put some of that difference away each month into an account. When he comes to change the car the xs mileage will only come into effect if he is handing the car back and walking away.
If he is trading it in or selling it privately the money he has put by would maybe cover the offset of having a higher mileage car than average and hence less of a deal.

Or is it just swings and roundabouts?

If you quote low miles to get a cheaper price per month, you have to be putting money away for when you trade in, or you'll be in negative equity. No way a GTD or GTI in p/x in 3 years time is going to be worth £2700 more than accurate GFV, you will have to pay the piper at some point. If you're putting money by to make up the shortfall later then what's the point? You are paying more interest on that would-be payment deferred than you would accumulate in a savings account, you might as well pay it up front.

OPs spec is £26224 on DTD.

With deposit down, he'll be financing £24724, with a GFV of £11770 (25k miles PA declared) and paying £463pm. That car might end up having a p/x value of £1000 more than GFV. If you want this car then you're going to have to chase a broker deal to make i work in the budget you have planned for.
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Re: PCP anyone..?
« Reply #11 on: 20 August 2013, 18:18 »
Whats to stop the OP saying he is doing 10K a year, which will bring the monthly payments down, put some of that difference away each month into an account. When he comes to change the car the xs mileage will only come into effect if he is handing the car back and walking away.
If he is trading it in or selling it privately the money he has put by would maybe cover the offset of having a higher mileage car than average and hence less of a deal.

Or is it just swings and roundabouts?

If you quote low miles to get a cheaper price per month, you have to be putting money away for when you trade in, or you'll be in negative equity. No way a GTD or GTI in p/x in 3 years time is going to be worth £2700 more than accurate GFV, you will have to pay the piper at some point. If you're putting money by to make up the shortfall later then what's the point? You are paying more interest on that would-be payment deferred than you would accumulate in a savings account, you might as well pay it up front.

OPs spec is £26224 on DTD.

With deposit down, he'll be financing £24724, with a GFV of £11770 (25k miles PA declared) and paying £463pm. That car might end up having a p/x value of £1000 more than GFV. If you want this car then you're going to have to chase a broker deal to make i work in the budget you have planned for.
Sorry for stealing your post Lengster! Hopefully you'll get something out this to.

I made the mistake of not declaring enough miles on my last car but luckily the settlement figure matches the p/x value.

I would be happy paying £463 if i could guarantee that the dealer from DTD would settle the outstanding finance on my current car.

Forgot to say that I get a car allowance from work plus mileage. Currently paying £351 for my current car and worked out that i can save £140 a month on fuel, plus the reduced tax over the year.
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Re: PCP anyone..?
« Reply #12 on: 20 August 2013, 18:25 »


I made the mistake of not declaring enough miles on my last car but luckily the settlement figure matches the p/x value.

I would be happy paying £463 if i could guarantee that the dealer from DTD would settle the outstanding finance on my current car.

Forgot to say that I get a car allowance from work plus mileage. Currently paying £351 for my current car and worked out that i can save £140 a month on fuel, plus the reduced tax over the year.

How does the outstanding amount compare to the WBAC.com valuation of it (accurate valuation based on true condition)? Broker initiated VW dealership should pay WBAC.com value at minimum, especially if it is a VAG car less than 5 years old. If not you might have to get rid privately.
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Re: PCP anyone..?
« Reply #13 on: 20 August 2013, 18:29 »


I made the mistake of not declaring enough miles on my last car but luckily the settlement figure matches the p/x value.

I would be happy paying £463 if i could guarantee that the dealer from DTD would settle the outstanding finance on my current car.

Forgot to say that I get a car allowance from work plus mileage. Currently paying £351 for my current car and worked out that i can save £140 a month on fuel, plus the reduced tax over the year.

How does the outstanding amount compare to the WBAC.com valuation of it (accurate valuation based on true condition)? Broker initiated VW dealership should pay WBAC.com value at minimum, especially if it is a VAG car less than 5 years old. If not you might have to get rid privately.

Dealer said it would be worth roughly £9500 in 6 months time, WBAC.com value it at £8,600 today!
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Re: PCP anyone..?
« Reply #14 on: 20 August 2013, 18:36 »


I made the mistake of not declaring enough miles on my last car but luckily the settlement figure matches the p/x value.

I would be happy paying £463 if i could guarantee that the dealer from DTD would settle the outstanding finance on my current car.

Forgot to say that I get a car allowance from work plus mileage. Currently paying £351 for my current car and worked out that i can save £140 a month on fuel, plus the reduced tax over the year.

How does the outstanding amount compare to the WBAC.com valuation of it (accurate valuation based on true condition)? Broker initiated VW dealership should pay WBAC.com value at minimum, especially if it is a VAG car less than 5 years old. If not you might have to get rid privately.

Dealer said it would be worth roughly £9500 in 6 months time, WBAC.com value it at £8,600 today!

Why are you posting here and not calling them right this instance to fix that p/x in writing!

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« Reply #15 on: 20 August 2013, 19:15 »

Dealer said it would be worth roughly £9500 in 6 months time, WBAC.com value it at £8,600 today!

Why are you posting here and not calling them right this instance to fix that p/x in writing!

Go.  Now.
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On paper there's £1800 there at least - £9500 in 6 months vs £7700 in 6 months with WBAC.com.Is that the no discount dealer? Best see what a broker dealership would give you for yours. On that £9500 valuation, will you have any equity in it?
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« Reply #16 on: 20 August 2013, 19:25 »
I made a quick enquiry via a moneysupermarket link today,2 year pcp 15k pa 3 month deposit and it came in at £375,i could be interested at those levels.Im waiting on a follow up call and see were it goes when discussing the nitty gritty,anything I should be asking or to look out for?

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Re: PCP anyone..?
« Reply #17 on: 20 August 2013, 21:45 »

Dealer said it would be worth roughly £9500 in 6 months time, WBAC.com value it at £8,600 today!

Why are you posting here and not calling them right this instance to fix that p/x in writing!

Go.  Now.

On paper there's £1800 there at least - £9500 in 6 months vs £7700 in 6 months with WBAC.com.Is that the no discount dealer? Best see what a broker dealership would give you for yours. On that £9500 valuation, will you have any equity in it?
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The £9,500 will pay off the finance. That's from the dealer offering no discount.
Thought about going with DTD but not sure just in case they give me a crap part ex and then if I back out I loose £500....

Thanks for the help!
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Re: PCP anyone..?
« Reply #18 on: 20 August 2013, 22:33 »
if you trade your car in early before the end of your pcp do you get hit for excess mileage?
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Re: PCP anyone..?
« Reply #19 on: 20 August 2013, 22:41 »
I made a quick enquiry via a moneysupermarket link today,2 year pcp 15k pa 3 month deposit and it came in at £375,i could be interested at those levels.Im waiting on a follow up call and see were it goes when discussing the nitty gritty,anything I should be asking or to look out for?
Taking out a pcp plan on a 2nd hand car didn't work for me. The dealer said I would be cheaper buying a new car rather than a 2nd hand car. That was with Audi.
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