R Teaser pic

[Gryzor]

I know it sounds pedantic, but the lack of reverse cam alone would be enough to make me stick.  Not sure I'd want 320 horses and rear wheel drive come the cold winter months either.  It's a tough one mate - apart from the power and slightly cheaper price, is it the immediate availability that's drawing you in?  Maybe if it didn't look so ugly I'd think a bit differently?! 

[matchboy]

I love both cars, I think they are awesome. I just think you'll enjoy the GTI more - I honestly do. And it would be a shame to waste this ridiculous wait and then not get the GTI! 

[Gryzor]

I love both cars, I think they are awesome. I just think you'll enjoy the GTI more - I honestly do. And it would be a shame to waste this ridiculous wait and then not get the GTI! 

In all honesty I totally agree, purely from the point of view of wasting this wait it would be a shame.  I'm sure the BMW is great fun, and on back-to-back test drives I guess most of us would side with it.  However, as an everyday car, I think drisser summed things up perfectly during his extended run.

Besides, these forums need ya' Bear!

[CraigW]

Yeah they won't delay the release... it's the build and delivery we're not so sure about!

So are you sticking or twisting Bill? You decided yet?

Flying back to blighty tonight, so I'll decide tomorrow I think.  I have an offer of another M135i with even better spec than the black one now.  Same as GTI i have on order except no reverse cam or sunroof, but can have it this week for £1.5k less than the GTI.  Emotionally I don't want to "cancel" an order i have placed but the M is making me feel excited and the GTI is not.  It's VWs fault not the car of course.

The one sticking point is if I do cancel the decision is pretty much irreversible due to starting a huge wait over again and without the rear cam.  But I think if I do pull the plug in a couple of days I'll forget any doubts as I drive away with 320 horses.  Like I say I'll think it over on the flight home and make a decision tomorrow.

I will miss this forum if i go beemer however!

Sometimes you have to let the heart rule the head and if its the Beemer thats exciting you then maybe that's the right car for you. Don't be influenced by forum talk. We are obviously biased towards the GTI but BMW have great forums as well. Beside, there's no reason not to hang about here whatever you decide. Andy went down the 135 road and he remains an active member which is great 

It's alot to think about but whatever you decide will be the right decision for you

[Gryzor]

Agreed, the heart is why I chose VW over Ford for example, and GTI over GTD.  Thankfully I haven't really had my heart broken on this journey so don't have that decision to make.

[master_hayabusa]

Back to topic.

If they launch the Golf R at Frankfurt in September and said first deliveries would be say Feb 2014, I'd definitely cancel my GTI.

[CraigW]

Back to topic.

If they launch the Golf R at Frankfurt in September and said first deliveries would be say Feb 2014, I'd definitely cancel my GTI.

Would you not be too late to cancel by then?

[Hobojim]

Back to topic.

If they launch the Golf R at Frankfurt in September and said first deliveries would be say Feb 2014, I'd definitely cancel my GTI.

If my car gets delayed I will be the same.

[master_hayabusa]

Back to topic.

If they launch the Golf R at Frankfurt in September and said first deliveries would be say Feb 2014, I'd definitely cancel my GTI.

Would you not be too late to cancel by then?

Well, I suppose it may be. Supposedly its going to be built in wk 38. But after all that's gone on and with this hail storm, who knows? Frankfurt motor show is on 10th September. So let's see. I'm hoping for some info before that though.

Quote from autoexpress:

VW will be kept busy in Frankfurt, unveiling four new cars. The cooked-up four-wheel drive Golf R, along with the Nissan Leaf challenging e-Golf and an electric version of the Up! will be revealed. To complete the new Mk7 Golf line-up, a Golf Plus model will be showcased prior to going on sale in 2014.

Read more: http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-news/frankfurt-motor-show/65532/frankfurt-motor-show-2013#ixzz2cLebftjW

[CraigW]

It will be really interesting to see what price the R is set at. Considering the S3 starts at £30,500 I would assume the R may be below £30k?