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Re: MK7 GTD - Real Life MPG
« Reply #910 on: 30 October 2014, 11:17 »
With the colder weather I have noticed my MPG taking a dive.  In summer my long term average was a steady 52 - 53.  Hit 60 on a couple of trips.  Now its hovering between 45 - 47.  Maybe the winter additive in the fuel and the lower temps.  No changes in driving style or journeys etc.
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Re: MK7 GTD - Real Life MPG
« Reply #911 on: 30 October 2014, 16:35 »
With the colder weather I have noticed my MPG taking a dive.  In summer my long term average was a steady 52 - 53.  Hit 60 on a couple of trips.  Now its hovering between 45 - 47.  Maybe the winter additive in the fuel and the lower temps.  No changes in driving style or journeys etc.

Strange, I've not noticed any significant difference... but then the weather hasn't been that cold (15-17C generally)...

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Re: MK7 GTD - Real Life MPG
« Reply #912 on: 30 October 2014, 17:43 »
With the colder weather I have noticed my MPG taking a dive.  In summer my long term average was a steady 52 - 53.  Hit 60 on a couple of trips.  Now its hovering between 45 - 47.  Maybe the winter additive in the fuel and the lower temps.  No changes in driving style or journeys etc.

Strange, I've not noticed any significant difference... but then the weather hasn't been that cold (15-17C generally)...

Mine seems to be consistent at circa 50. As said the weather hasn't really turned cold yet. Although lights and heater etc are now on for longer

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Re: MK7 GTD - Real Life MPG
« Reply #913 on: 31 October 2014, 04:20 »
Pretty similar here according to fuelly
www.fuelly.com/car/volkswagen/golf/2014/Roundsquare/294731


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Re: MK7 GTD - Real Life MPG
« Reply #914 on: 03 November 2014, 13:29 »
Although lights and heater etc are now on for longer

Those will not make a measurable difference...

Do you notice that your car is significantly slower when you have your headlights on, or if you turn the heater up a degree or two or if you put the heated rear window on?  :laugh:

No?

Then you won't be able to measure the effect that having them on has on the fuel consumption... it makes a bigger difference if you have a passenger in the car or not...  :tongue:
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Re: MK7 GTD - Real Life MPG
« Reply #915 on: 03 November 2014, 20:48 »
Although lights and heater etc are now on for longer

Those will not make a measurable difference...

Do you notice that your car is significantly slower when you have your headlights on, or if you turn the heater up a degree or two or if you put the heated rear window on?  :laugh:

No?

Then you won't be able to measure the effect that having them on has on the fuel consumption... it makes a bigger difference if you have a passenger in the car or not...  :tongue:

Of course lights/heater will effect the mpg achieved. They are putting a load on the alternator. Depends on your definition of "significant".



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Re: MK7 GTD - Real Life MPG
« Reply #916 on: 04 November 2014, 09:01 »
Of course lights/heater will effect the mpg achieved. They are putting a load on the alternator. Depends on your definition of "significant".

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By any definition of significant.

You could not measure the difference in mpg between having your lights on or off and attribute it to that, the wind direction would have a greater impact than having your lights on. I don't notice a sudden change in performance and fuel consumption when I turn my lights on... and a change back when I turn them off.

The heater has no impact as this is driven by the cooling system.
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Re: MK7 GTD - Real Life MPG
« Reply #917 on: 04 November 2014, 12:30 »
I think most people would consider significance in change by how measurable that change is . Some people might notice a 2%/1mpg change on a GTD, others a 5%/3mpg change. There are so many variables in the mix with a car:-

Wind direction, ambient temp, having an extra passenger or cargo. I personally wouldn’t consider the lights significant, you have about 140W of external lighting in total (not using fogs), and around the doors your engine will be typically outputting around 60kW to achieve 45mpg. Your lights are eating away about 0.25% of your total output, you couldn’t confidently measure the change in mpg with all the other things going on, like a change of direction into a headwind etc.

Start adding aircon (up to 3kW/5% max) or heating (wing mirrors, rear screen, blowers on the auxillary heater) on a car with a cold engine and you might be talking 2kW/ 3%. Once the car is up to temp you should only be relying on the engine’s heat output that is normally wasted to the atmosphere via your cooling system. On a cold engine you’ll definitely see the heating/aircon effect (to keep windscreen from fogging) on your mpg. On a cold day though, you’ll also have to ask yourself how much of that 5mpg winter dip is down to the ambient temp and the engine working harder with slightly denser fuel to get up to temp from a lower temp and combusting with the use of drier air (less expansion – humid air has a positive effect on mpg), and how much is down to the ancillary load being placed on the car either directly (aircon driven by a belt off the engine) or indirectly (higher electrical load taken from the battery that the alternator is going to have to work harder to put back at some point, not necessarily immediately). You’ll notice the aircon’s effect on your output immediately if its working hard, the electrical systems perhaps not.
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Re: MK7 GTD - Real Life MPG
« Reply #918 on: 04 November 2014, 14:13 »
You’ll notice the aircon’s effect on your output immediately if its working hard, the electrical systems perhaps not.

That's the correct answer...
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Re: MK7 GTD - Real Life MPG
« Reply #919 on: 04 November 2014, 20:28 »
Can hardly believe how a little bit of cold and not having the DTUK on have hammered the indicated mpg. I struggled to reach 41mpg coming home today, most likely a real world 39mpg, as opposed to yesterday when the box managed an indicated 51mpg (likely real 47mpg) driving the car much harder. No heating on at all and 9C (yesterday it was 12C). Missing the box already (my dad has a lend of it).
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