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Re: MK7 GTD - Real Life MPG
« Reply #260 on: 22 November 2013, 20:16 »
MPG is truly awful in this car!!!!! 60...lol absolute sh!te. I have been ragging mine a bit too be fair as well as the conservative approach. But I have been as low as 18mpg (of which I either thought A) I have a hole in the fuel tank and B) I should have got a bloody GTI at this rate. I am generally around the low 30s...and for a diesel that's a joke. around 350-375 miles for a tank by the looks of it
That does not sound a healthy car mate.  I'd need to be towing a caravan up a perpetual hill to get those numbers...  Seriously, have you formally complained and had the car properly investigated yet?

Its now at 32...still pretty sh!t. I drove my a3 like i stole it pretty much and still managed mid 40s.

18 was round the town and still giving it a fair bit of acceleration. it was stuck at that for a day. and no...handbrake wasnt on lol. Car performs great but i just cant see how 60, let alone 50 is possible
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Re: MK7 GTD - Real Life MPG
« Reply #261 on: 22 November 2013, 22:29 »
Well got I 56mpg on the way home from work tonight, but I wasn't driving it like I stole it, but then wasn't driving like miss daisy either. So it can be done.
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Re: MK7 GTD - Real Life MPG
« Reply #262 on: 23 November 2013, 18:29 »
MPG is truly awful in this car!!!!! 60...lol absolute sh!te. I have been ragging mine a bit too be fair as well as the conservative approach. But I have been as low as 18mpg (of which I either thought A) I have a hole in the fuel tank and B) I should have got a bloody GTI at this rate. I am generally around the low 30s...and for a diesel that's a joke. around 350-375 miles for a tank by the looks of it
That does not sound a healthy car mate.  I'd need to be towing a caravan up a perpetual hill to get those numbers...  Seriously, have you formally complained and had the car properly investigated yet?

Its now at 32...still pretty sh!t. I drove my a3 like i stole it pretty much and still managed mid 40s.

18 was round the town and still giving it a fair bit of acceleration. it was stuck at that for a day. and no...handbrake wasnt on lol. Car performs great but i just cant see how 60, let alone 50 is possible

Seriously, I get better than 18mpg around town in my 911 (more like 20-22)... 18 mpg on the road... I was trying quite hard driving over Petit Saint Bernard...

If your gag old mpg is really as bad as you say then I would go and get it checked out...
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Re: MK7 GTD - Real Life MPG
« Reply #263 on: 24 November 2013, 16:36 »
Abysmal 39mpg on a 40 mile round trip, mainly motorway (80mph) speeds with 4 adults and a bit of shopping in the car. First half of the journey I was aware of a DPF regen going on with start/stop auto-disabled and idling at 1000rpm. Was in Normal mode, been using Sport prior to the other day. Normal seems thirstier. Sport seems livelier in the lower end and normal seems to have more clout in the overtaking range.
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Re: MK7 GTD - Real Life MPG
« Reply #264 on: 24 November 2013, 21:04 »
Wow...weird MPGs for sure. I've now covered just shy of 5000 miles...long term is 47.9 but I have noticed a decrease since 2 recent 150 mile trips up and down the M5/M6
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Re: MK7 GTD - Real Life MPG
« Reply #265 on: 24 November 2013, 21:47 »
Having lurked on here for months, finally thought I'd add my experiences of a GTD for what they're worth.

I've done 1600 miles in my 5dr GTD manual including motorway,around town and I live in a very hilly area. Tried all the modes, eco is fine on motorways but awfully "flat" elsewhere and sport is a bit noisy. Overall since start the computer says 51mpg and it works out about 50mpg fill to fill. Managed an indicated 67MPG on a 30 mile trip on the M6 last weekend in eco mode. I compete in motorsport events so am not a Sunday Driver.

My last car was a Touran 2.0TDI and that averaged 48mpg over 84,000 miles also on Asda diesel as V Power or BP Ultimate killed the economy.

Only get occasional regens with the GTD and never had the fan running after turning off the engine.

Very happy with the performance, it's as quick as I need it to be and can't see why anyone driving this on the road would need a remap/tuning box etc. If it's too slow go and buy an Evo 6 and use the money you'd saved to pay for the fuel :smiley:

I'm really pleased with the GTD, bought it as a demo with 200 miles on the clock, no faults, no rattles, no swirls, in the colour I wanted, with options I didn't pay for and much cheaper than a new one, but still had to wait 3 months for the dealer to release it :grin:

Oh, my car has the dreaded Bridgestones, but with all the electronic assitance and sensitive use of the throttle I can't say anything negativeabout them, did 200 miles last night on slippy salted roads with no issues.

The only criticism I have is that the genuine rubber mat in the front drivers side doesn't cover enough of the carpet.

If you're thinking about getting a GTD, have an extended test drive and make a decision based on that. All round the best car I've ever driven.

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Re: MK7 GTD - Real Life MPG
« Reply #266 on: 25 November 2013, 08:06 »
There is something that would be really interesting to do, to see if there is any correlation between fuel used and what gearbox you have. If we could get a table knocked up that said the fuel you were using (Tescos, Esso, Shell etc), your long-term mpg figure (MFD value – let’s assume it is consistently 5% optimistic), maybe add in approximate miles done (to the nearest 100 miles), so we can see if higher mileage examples are giving better mpg and whether you are manual or DSG (as some DSGers, if not most, seem to be getting cracking mpg).

This morning my commute bounced back to 45mpg (in “Normal”, which seems to be thirstier than Sport for me). So it would seem that my car does and indicated 45-47mpg when it’s not regenning the DPF and 40-42 when it is.
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Re: MK7 GTD - Real Life MPG
« Reply #267 on: 25 November 2013, 17:57 »
MH you seem to have an awfull lot more regens than I seem to have. Don't think I've had one on a journey that has been over 25 miles. My MPG keeps getting better and better too. Last tank on Asda fuel saw me hit 53MPG according to the MFD for the tank.

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Re: MK7 GTD - Real Life MPG
« Reply #268 on: 25 November 2013, 19:31 »
Something I noticed this morning whilst driving to work that may (or may not) be related. As it was bloody freezing this morning (-3 deg C), I set the climate temperature on 29 deg (normally it sits at 23 deg).

About 2 miles into my journey I noticed was I thought was a regen (idling at 1000 rpm and start / stop deactivated). As it was greeting warm air inside, whilst i was stationary at the lights I turned my temperature down to 24 deg and instantly the revs dropped to about 750rpm then the engine cut and start stop reactivated. A little unsure what had happened, I turn the temperature back up, and immediately the car re-started - turned it down and a few seconds later it stopped.

I'm now wondering if some of the "regens" I've been seeing on the way to work were not in fact regens but just the 1KW PET electric heater switched on at higher temperature settings to warm the coolant up faster. This must have a big load on the electrical system hence the system raises the revs and cuts the start / stop function ?

As it's going to be freezing again tomorrow, I'll try it again just to see if it was a fluke ?
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Re: MK7 GTD - Real Life MPG
« Reply #269 on: 25 November 2013, 22:15 »
I haven't been whacking up the heat. Coldest i've seen since owning the car was +2C (as it was this morning). I'm pretty resilient to the cold, being from the north sea coast (typical of the Geordies you see out in short sleeve shirts drinking in December!  :whistle:). I don't put the heating on, it's set to "low" (and even when I put the heating on, 16C is enough for me) until the car is well on it's way to warming up (water at 90C and oil at 70C).

Don't think my "regens" are down to the auxillary heater doing its stuff because I don't have the blower pushing out warm heat until the car's engine is almost warm.

I will have to give Asda diesel a go next time I fill up, as per Kyle's recommendations - I would love to just crack 50mpg on my commute. Car is going back into Benfield tomorrow ( I would go to Pulman but it is just too far for convenience from mine - the "we'll collect your car" service has not been available the last 2 times of asking) for another look at the handbrake. After those Benfield monkeys just cleared the fault codes and didn't actually fix it, the fault happened again last week. Since then my auto hold and handbrake have switched off a few times mid journey (usually one or the otherr, not both at once, and no further notifications that they have switched off.

Further experimentation with "normal" has me convinced it is thirstier than "Sport". It seems to be the better all around driving experience - less power at the low end (giving any more just contributes to tramping) and more potent in the overtaking (40-80mph) range.

For the regens i'm getting, i'm convinced my car is not running at it's best - I never had a single active regen on my last Scirocco, everything was happening passively and my car usage hasn't changed since getting the GTD.
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