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Offline monkeyhanger

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Re: MK7 GTD - Real Life MPG
« Reply #420 on: 22 December 2013, 16:08 »
On my 12 mile commute, my first 4 miles are at a 35mpg average , which increases to maybe 42mpg at 8 miles, and by the end, 46mpg right now if there's no regen going on. When I was extending my commute to 16 miles, I was cracking 50mpg. This is when my car isn't actively regenning

For my commute journey then, my first 4 miles uses 0.11 gallons or 0.51L, the next 4 uses 0.079 gallons or 0.36L, the last 4 uses 0.071 gallons or 0.32L. On those terms, the commute extension's further 4 miles uses 0.059 gallons or 0.27L.

If we consider the car at it's top efficiency in the 13-16 mile stint (there will be room for a little improvement, but not much) then at that point then for those 4 miles the car is doing 67.8mpg.

Those first 4miles (33% of the journey) use 58% of the fuel on a whole 8 mile journey, or 42% of the fuel used on my whole 12 mile commute. Those first 4 miles have the water temp up to 90C and the oil temp possibly just touching 50C.

The first 8 miles (67% of the journey) use 73% of the fuel on my whole 12 mile commute. At 8 miles, my oil temp is at or near 90C. At 12 miles my oil temp is at whatever temp it wants for passive regenning - anywhere from 90C to 98C.

Seems to me then that if you're doing 15+ miles on your average journey then you're laughing, and any less than that will see you shaking your head in disbelief at the pumps to a varying extent. That's before the active regens kick in that I see for 40-50 miles every 250 miles which turn a 46mpg commute into a 41mpg commute.

Does anyone else's car warm up any quicker than mine, or do you see similar temps at similar phases into your journey?
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Re: MK7 GTD - Real Life MPG
« Reply #421 on: 22 December 2013, 17:40 »
I'm seeing similar time/distance for the engine oil to warm up. If I've been working from home, I'll take my lad to school, 30 mile round trip. About 1 mile of 30mph, then straight onto dual carriageway for 12 miles, 2 miles of 40 to 30 mph. After the first 15 miles MFD typically showing 42 at the moment. On the way back I've been reaching 44.

Also seen similar economy profile out in longer journeys, only starting to creep up to 47/48 after 50/60 miles. I've only had the car since the 5th dec, but done just over 2000 miles. It did appear to have improved a bit, but I just can't crack 50 mpg yet. Most of my journeys have been motorway or dual carriageway at 70/75/80 and consisting the distances I would have thought 50 mpg should be easily achievable.

Just to add, short journeys around town/ring road really do kill my mpg, down to 34 today with a mixture of stop start, 30mph & 70mph stretches about 20 miles total
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Re: MK7 GTD - Real Life MPG
« Reply #422 on: 23 December 2013, 09:50 »
Ahhhhhh my figures are starting to creep up!
Finally filled up with BP Ultimate, (There's literally no petrol stations near me that seel the premium diesel! bahhh - apart from this one)...

So gave it a go, and then did a quick 22 mile return trip to Brighton.  My average for the trip was 48.9 mpg! (Considering my long term is 33.9 now... that's pretty darn impressive!) - and i wasn't driving like a saint either...

SO.... either a premium fuel works a hell of a lot better or.... the car at 600 miles gone has decided it is awake now :)
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Re: MK7 GTD - Real Life MPG
« Reply #423 on: 23 December 2013, 10:57 »
Ahhhhhh my figures are starting to creep up!
Finally filled up with BP Ultimate, (There's literally no petrol stations near me that seel the premium diesel! bahhh - apart from this one)...

So gave it a go, and then did a quick 22 mile return trip to Brighton.  My average for the trip was 48.9 mpg! (Considering my long term is 33.9 now... that's pretty darn impressive!) - and i wasn't driving like a saint either...

SO.... either a premium fuel works a hell of a lot better or.... the car at 600 miles gone has decided it is awake now :)

There's premium fuel and there's premium fuel. BP ultimate is a full fat diesel with better than average additives. Shell V-power is a blend of proper diesel and GTL synthesised diesel as well as the additives. Shell V-power is about 12% less calorific than standard Shell diesel due to the GTL content which has significantly shorter average carbon chain length than the regular diesel component.

You're a lot more likely to get better mpg out of BP ultimate than V-power.
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Re: MK7 GTD - Real Life MPG
« Reply #424 on: 23 December 2013, 11:06 »
Wow... i have no idea what you just said... but it sounds amazing! :) :)  :grin:

So, Bp = ok... well at least better than the normal stuff.
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Re: MK7 GTD - Real Life MPG
« Reply #425 on: 23 December 2013, 12:37 »
Wow... i have no idea what you just said... but it sounds amazing! :) :)  :grin:

So, Bp = ok... well at least better than the normal stuff.

Think of it like this:-

Normal Diesel is Stella Artois, got some kick but might give you a severe hangover.

BP Ultimate is San Miguel, got same kick, but you won't get so much of a hangover.

Shell V-power is Fosters, it may not even get you drunk!
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Re: MK7 GTD - Real Life MPG
« Reply #426 on: 23 December 2013, 14:57 »
Now i understood that! :P - and i blimmin hate stella!
Wouldn't want to fuel anything with that piddle :) hehe

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Re: MK7 GTD - Real Life MPG
« Reply #427 on: 24 December 2013, 17:28 »
My GTD is a proper wife beater. Can't get enough of ASDAs finest (read cheapest) fuel and still hammers out 50mpg.

Reckon I've got a Belgian built one ;)

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Re: MK7 GTD - Real Life MPG
« Reply #428 on: 26 December 2013, 10:40 »
As the ambient temp has taken a bit of a kicking these last few weeks, so has my fuel economy. Down to 43.5mpg indicated for this tankful. Going to be driving past the cheapest BP garage I know (Byker) later today so will fill up there (it's not usually on my way, except when I go the back way to town for the match). Will see how the BP does.

My dad had his first service a week ago and saw no change in his mpg or output in the next 600 miles.

There have been people on another forum who have suggested that when they've had their GT TDI 150s serviced (because on average they've had theirs a fair bit longer than we've had our GTI/GTDs) that their mpg has improved noticeably. I did wonder whether VW had programmed in a reduction in detune after the first oil service (which you'd assume would remove more material (associated with running in) than any other oil change you'll have. Seems from my dad's findings that this isn't the case.
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Re: MK7 GTD - Real Life MPG
« Reply #429 on: 26 December 2013, 10:58 »
Have you spoken to a dealer about your regens mate? I wouldn't class you as doing short journeys but you seem to have a lot of regens. Also how did your trial with supermarket fuel go?