MK7 GTD - Real Life MPG

[monkeyhanger]

Hi Guys,

New to this forum, and may be new to VW entirely....

Went for a spin in a new GTD manual today at Loughton with a view to a new 3 door carbon grey with  sunroof and leather to add to a standard one. Liked the package as a whole.

Seen some of the previous posts, I do about 300-400 miles motorway, and about 40 miles town driving per week.

What do you think my real world fuel costs would be per week on a manual GTD based on the economy any current owners are experiencing?

With all that motorway mileage you should expect better mp than most - 60mpg if you're sensible (no more than 75-80mph constant cruising speed) and the car is fully run in. About £50 a week on that basis.

[monkeyhanger]

Following on from my 30 mile round trip to Sunderland, my commute home from work was 47mpg and a mile of that was at a crawl due to some unusual traffic caused by a burst water main. Might've touched 50 without that crawl. Seems the Sunderland trip might've cleared out the DPF. For the 30 mile trip and half of my commute home my start stop would not work, making me think I was undergoing a fuel-friendly passive regen.

[Sootchucker]

Well, I now have a massive 265 miles on the car now, - but that will be increasing quite a bit over the next few weeks as I've got a couple of family trips from Cheshire to London and Oxford panned.

My long term up to now is.....drum roll......41.2mpg. Not brilliant, when my Scirocco (for the same journeys) was giving 45-47mpg, albeit with over 40hp less. Am I bothered.......nah,... for a couple of reasons.

1. With the mileage I have on at the moment, it's still factory fresh and feels tight as a drum. I expect once it properly loosens up over 2-4k miles, things will improve, and I seem to be permanently stuck in queuing traffic at the moment (which doesn't help).

2. It's been bloody cold ever since I've had the Golf (typical), at less than 8°C in the mornings, and I know from the winters in the Scirocco, that the cold weather does have a real good affect on MPG.

3. Even if the MPG stayed the same at 41mpg versus the Scirocco's 46mpg average, that's 5mpg difference so for my typical mileage, that equates to about £250.00 per year extra on fuel - not exactly a massive penalty for driving a 181bhp Hot(ish) hatch  , and that's always assuming the MPG doesn't improve, which I'm sure it will.

[monkeyhanger]

Well, I now have a massive 265 miles on the car now, - but that will be increasing quite a bit over the next few weeks as I've got a couple of family trips from Cheshire to London and Oxford panned.

My long term up to now is.....drum roll......41.2mpg. Not brilliant, when my Scirocco (for the same journeys) was giving 45-47mpg, albeit with over 40hp less. Am I bothered.......nah,... for a couple of reasons.

1. With the mileage I have on at the moment, it's still factory fresh and feels tight as a drum. I expect once it properly loosens up over 2-4k miles, things will improve, and I seem to be permanently stuck in queuing traffic at the moment (which doesn't help).

2. It's been bloody cold ever since I've had the Golf (typical), at less than 8°C in the mornings, and I know from the winters in the Scirocco, that the cold weather does have a real good affect on MPG.

3. Even if the MPG stayed the same at 41mpg versus the Scirocco's 46mpg average, that's 5mpg difference so for my typical mileage, that equates to about £250.00 per year extra on fuel - not exactly a massive penalty for driving a 181bhp Hot(ish) hatch  , and that's always assuming the MPG doesn't improve, which I'm sure it will.

Looks like your mpg is about the same as mine at similar mileage, minus 10% penalty for having a DSG box. My MFD indicated economy “since last fill up” is at about 47mpg, and my “long term” is 45mpg after a poor start with the “free” fuel hat came with the car. I am using V-power right now, so maybe my mpg is about 5% better than it otherwise would’ve been with regular diesel (assumed fewer DPF regens with V-power means better economy). What are you filling your car with right now?

It’s a relief to know mine isn’t abnormally low at this stage (they’re all 30% lower than official combined). Although I have only really tried putting my foot down hard once in 6th, I’m a little concerned that right now, 5th and 6th acceleration is as flat as a fart – more akin to the response I had on my 140TDI Scirocco rather than the 170TDI that followed it. Hopefully we’ll get that boost that seemed to come in on the Scirocco 170TDI at 310 miles/500 km.

Never really got much of a mpg improvement when the miles racked up on the Scirocco – maybe this engine is tighter than the last one or all the eco electronics are having a long learning curve to eventually get the best out of the car. The colder mornings and use of the headlights do make a difference – right now it is 6-9C when I go to work with headlights and about 16C on the way home with no headlights. 44mpg on the way to work typically and 49 mpg home if I don’t hit much traffic.

[Buddy]

Just over 500 miles in my GTD. Mixed miles, probably 70% motorway plus quite a lot of stop start in traffic.

Long term = 42mpg.
Since refuel = 45mpg. Used Vpower Nitro+ and have done 350 miles on it.

Like others have said, going anything over 70 seems to hit the mpg quite badly.

[Sootchucker]

Well now, that's getting more like it.

My usual run home tonight I got 53.4mpg, whereas I would have typically got about 55-57mpg in the Scirocco, and that's with less than 300 miles on the clock. Getting better all the time. Certainly better than the 41-42mpg I was getting at the start of the week, so I can see high 50's low 60's a distinct possibility on longer runs (this was only 12 miles).

Started off using economy mode, but didn't like (or wasn't used to) the coasting mode that you get with DSG where on the over-run, the engine completely disconnects from the transmission and you freewheel or coast. It's really weird as there's no engine braking so you have to be careful you don't get too close to the car in front (otherwise the object detection array complains  ).

Have just stuck it in normal for the time being (not even been into sport), but I gave it a little hoof tonight to accelerate onto the the dual carriageway, and my god.... even with a tight engine and not in sport mode, it's bloody quick and pulled like a steam train. Obviously I'm used to a 140ps Scirocco, so it's majorly impressive (maybe not so much if you have come from the 170ps engine ?).

If the GTD's are that quick, I'd love to have a go in the GTI with the extra 30bhp !

[monkeyhanger]

Well now, that's getting more like it.

My usual run home tonight I got 53.4mpg, whereas I would have typically got about 55-57mpg in the Scirocco, and that's with less than 300 miles on the clock. Getting better all the time. Certainly better than the 41-42mpg I was getting at the start of the week, so I can see high 50's low 60's a distinct possibility on longer runs (this was only 12 miles).

Started off using economy mode, but didn't like (or wasn't used to) the coasting mode that you get with DSG where on the over-run, the engine completely disconnects from the transmission and you freewheel or coast. It's really weird as there's no engine braking so you have to be careful you don't get too close to the car in front (otherwise the collection detection array complains  ).

Have just stuck it in normal for the time being (not even been into sport), but I have it a little hoof tonight to accelerate onto the the dual carriageway, and my gosh.... even with a tight engine and not in sport mode, it's bloody quick and pulled like a steam train. Obviously I'm used to a 140ps Scirocco, so it's majorly impressive (maybe not so muh if you have come from the 170ps engine ?).

If the GTD's are that quick, I'd love to have a go in the GTI with the extra 30hp. Ob

Still extremely tight for me. 5th and 6th acceleration are pretty poor for me right now compared to my 170 Scirocco (seem on a par with my old 140), but in the lower gears it seems faster than the Scirocco. I'm knocking it down to 4th for a blast whereas i'd have left it in 6th for a burst above 60mph in the Scirocco. Done about 390 miles now, most of it in Sport and since fill-up (250 miles)  it says 46.3mpg. If the computer is 100% accurate then it's matching the scirocco. If it's 10% optimistic (like the Scirocco was) then it's faring a little worse.

53.4mpg in a tight DSG on a 12 mile trip seems very good - is that all dual carriageway?

[Sootchucker]

Actually not quite. From work I have a 15 minute queue in stop / start traffic to get off the industrial estate when our offices are (everyone pile out at the same time and there's only one route out to the main drag), to do 1 mile.

So 1 mile of queuing, followed by 9 miles of fast dual carriageway, followed by 2 miles of urban 40/30mph roads (but no real hold ups apart from the initial queue).

[monkeyhanger]

Actually not quite. From work I have a 15 minute queue in stop / start traffic to get off the industrial estate when our offices are (everyone pile out at the same time and there's only one route out to the main drag), to do 1 mile.

So 1 mile of queuing, followed by 9 miles of fast dual carriageway, followed by 2 miles of urban 40/30mph roads (but no real hold ups apart from the initial queue).

Sounds like mine should be a more economical journey than yours: 1.5miles through uncongested 30/40 roads to get onto the dual carriageway (straight up to 80mph), sit at 80 for 7 miles then 4 miles of uncongested 30/50mph roads going to work at 7am. Coming home at 4pm, there is a little more traffic, not much. I get about 44mpg on the way there (with Xenons on and colder ambient temperature) and 48mpg on the way back (without them). Are you sticking to 70mph? There seems (in my car at least) a far bigger fuel penalty for going over 70mph than there was in my Scirocco.

[KyleB]

Mines got about 400 miles on it now. (OK might of been a little addicted to driving it). I've done a long journey today and got a reported 51.9MPG. That was mostly dual carriageway at 80-90, with a bit of congestion.

You're not wrong about the power, can't believe how fast and easy it is to get to license losing speeds!