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Re: MK7 GTD - Real Life MPG
« Reply #30 on: 16 September 2013, 19:38 »
Hi Guys,

New to this forum, and may be new to VW entirely....

Went for a spin in a new GTD manual today at Loughton with a view to a new 3 door carbon grey with  sunroof and leather to add to a standard one. Liked the package as a whole.

Seen some of the previous posts, I do about 300-400 miles motorway, and about 40 miles town driving per week.

What do you think my real world fuel costs would be per week on a manual GTD based on the economy any current owners are experiencing?



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Re: MK7 GTD - Real Life MPG
« Reply #31 on: 16 September 2013, 21:13 »
I had slightly better mpg in eco mode today as opposed to sport. You might be thinking "duh!", but in the individual components of the driving settings within eco/normal/sport that you can customise in "individual", I thought that the "engine" setting  was just for the sound actuator and not altering fuel usage in any way (as seemed to be the case with my Scirocco). Whilst sitting in Eco and halfway home I was getting a semi respectable 48mpg. I put it in sport for a mile and even though I was just maintaining the speed I had got up to and maintained in eco, my mpg started to dip quite quickly until I switched it back to Eco where it started to recover.

As ridiculous as it sounds, it seemed like the car was using more fuel in sport, compared to eco when doing the exact same thing (sitting on dual carriageway maintaining 75mph). Even pushing the accelerator harder in eco to better the moderate acceleration seen with less accelerator in Sport, fuel usage was less.
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Re: MK7 GTD - Real Life MPG
« Reply #32 on: 16 September 2013, 21:19 »

Hmmmm. Seems like the claims aren't anywhere near what one would expect.

What about mapping? Would that improve the economy on constant throttle??

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« Reply #33 on: 16 September 2013, 21:27 »

Hmmmm. Seems like the claims aren't anywhere near what one would expect.

What about mapping? Would that improve the economy on constant throttle??

My dad had a chip box from TDI-tuning.co.uk that took his MK5 Golf 170TDI to 200PS and 10% better fuel economy. Might be something to consider a trial of when the car is run in.
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Re: MK7 GTD - Real Life MPG
« Reply #34 on: 16 September 2013, 21:42 »
Hmm I wouldn't of thought that the different settings would affect the engine. Did you notice much difference in engine noise in eco or sport?

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« Reply #35 on: 16 September 2013, 21:51 »
Hmm I wouldn't of thought that the different settings would affect the engine. Did you notice much difference in engine noise in eco or sport?

A big difference internally due to the actuator doing it's stuff fully in sport, a little bit in normal and not at all in eco. On my Scirocco Sport seemed to just affect the actuator being on and heavier steering (as well as the standard fit ACC/DCC being firmer) - no fuel penalty at all for using Sport. Not so for the GTD it seems. Can't see why sitting at 75mph in sport on a flat road uses 10% more fuel than sitting at 75mph in eco on the same stretch of road.
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Re: MK7 GTD - Real Life MPG
« Reply #36 on: 16 September 2013, 21:52 »

Hmmmm. Seems like the claims aren't anywhere near what one would expect.

What about mapping? Would that improve the economy on constant throttle??

My dad had a chip box from TDI-tuning.co.uk that took his MK5 Golf 170TDI to 200PS and 10% better fuel economy. Might be something to consider a trial of when the car is run in.

Thanks for that info Monkeyhanger.
Like I say, felt like sweet package. Just want to ensure im getting value for money as an allrounder. Went for a nice rip around some local roads and a bit of M11 too with the salesman. Not experienced electric steering before (which was the only thing I didnt like really). Other than that, very nice car. Might ask him for an extended test drive to see exactly how much it drinks over my usual commute before I commit a deposit....

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Re: MK7 GTD - Real Life MPG
« Reply #37 on: 16 September 2013, 22:08 »
Thanks for that info Monkeyhanger.
Like I say, felt like sweet package. Just want to ensure im getting value for money as an allrounder. Went for a nice rip around some local roads and a bit of M11 too with the salesman. Not experienced electric steering before (which was the only thing I didnt like really). Other than that, very nice car. Might ask him for an extended test drive to see exactly how much it drinks over my usual commute before I commit a deposit....

Depends what you're used to and what reality is once the car is run in. Personally, I was used to 50mpg on my 12 mile commute in the Scirocco, in Sport and putting my foot down quite a bit to get to speed, but otherwise having a fairly economic driving style once at the desired speed. longer journeys (30 miles and more) was expecting 55-60mpg maintaining 80mph on the motorway. If I drove my GTD like I drove my Scirocco, i'd probably get about 40mpg right now. Can I even match my Scirocco (with not a bit of eco tech on it) once the GTD is run in? Time will tell.

What was it about the electric steering? The variable lock length? My mate has this o his recently acquired Audo A4 and he keeps oversteering when he starts horsing about in it. You can change the steering to normal or eco mode within "individual" to minimise or negate the variable steering response.
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Re: MK7 GTD - Real Life MPG
« Reply #38 on: 17 September 2013, 13:54 »
Had to go to the dealership to pick up my tax disc today. For some inexplicable reason the DVLA send them to the dealerships and not the registered keeper (although that is probably registered keeper to be when the disc gets applied for). VW also strongly insist that the dealerships do not post them out to customers, as a way of getting the customer back in for feedback on the car.

Anyway, on the 15 miles there on the most direct route from work, most of the roads are 40-60mph with lots of stops and starts around the Felling bypass. Had a few chances to pull away quickly from the lights to get straight up to 40mph and stay there, in Sport all the way and I got to the dealership…52.8mpg for the journey, much better. Saw my p/x Roc up for £17995, collected my tax disc, had a quick word with the salesman after he asked how the car was a week in. He says his Tiguan improved considerably on 4k miles. All done, I set off back to work on the same route. Round trip was up to 53.6mpg, not too bad all things considered. On the short bit of central motorway I managed to get up to 75mph, the mpg for the trip was falling rapidly from a high of 56mpg.

Right now this car seems to make you pay a harsh fuel penalty for exceeding a cruising speed of 60mph. The stop start was unavailable for the whole journey, maybe it was doing a passive regen (although gear change recommendations didn’t seem to change from the norm and it wasn’t idling at 1000rpm). I thought that maybe stop-start was disabled in Sport mode, but flicking over to eco didn’t instigate a stop at a junction either. So I lost stop-start and gained mpg…..win-win!

It still seems flat as a fart in 5th and 6th next to the Scirocco – maybe that is my reluctance to get into the “clicky zone” of accelerator travel while the car is running in, or maybe I will see a noticeable difference in the car’s performance at 310 miles/500km like I did with the Scirocco.
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Re: MK7 GTD - Real Life MPG
« Reply #39 on: 17 September 2013, 16:34 »
Hi Guys,

New to this forum, and may be new to VW entirely....

Went for a spin in a new GTD manual today at Loughton with a view to a new 3 door carbon grey with  sunroof and leather to add to a standard one. Liked the package as a whole.

Seen some of the previous posts, I do about 300-400 miles motorway, and about 40 miles town driving per week.

What do you think my real world fuel costs would be per week on a manual GTD based on the economy any current owners are experiencing?

I'll bet on about £60/week...
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