Have VW restricted production of the GTD/GTI too much this time

[RobS23GTI]

Re running costs, my insurance is £75 more than the GTI would have been and less than my mk6 GTD somehow?!
Driving at the speed limit today 30 miles to work, I got 38mpg in eco mode on the M135i...granted that wont happen often but its nice to know it wont cost a fortune if I don't want to boot it constantly.

Sytner had some brand new in dealer stock so got it in 4 day turnaround!! The only option I wanted was Estoril blue which looks amazing to be fair.

[matchboy]

Nope 16% total plus an extra £500 p/x on my missus' car than what it was worth (they really wanted the deal in this months numbers!). The finance is at 5.9% which is a bit cheaper than VW too. List price inc options was £33,500 and I got for £28,000.

Spec as follows;
3 door
Estoril blue (£550)
Leather interior
Xenons
DAB radio
Dimming mirrors/auto rain sensors
18" alloys
5 years service pack (£800)
Driver comfort package (£385)
Heated seats (£295)
Sun protection package (£315)
Harman Kardon Hi-fi (£600)

Standard spec without the options is pretty decent for a BMW though

You've ordered the best colour as well, its immense!

I've just done a quick configuration, and the spec I went for was very similar to yours - ignoring running costs it'd cost me another 50 quid a month on a pcp - if I had known what a wait the GTI would have been I would have been seriously tempted to go for the 135i - especially as I would have had it by now 

[Bill_the_Bear]

GTI.  Available at some undetermined time in the future.  We hope.

M135i.  You can have it tomorrow, for less money too.

FFS.

[monkeyhanger]

I've cancelled my order this last week as the wait till Christmas at the earliest would have been excruciating.

Got a brand new BMW M135i with 16% off list price and its unbelievable to be fair. I know its not a direct competitor to the GTI but when you can get one for £28k after discount, it makes it a very realistic purchase.

Hey Rob,

A little bit off topic but would you mind posting the full spec you got with the M135?  I'd be real interested to see how it compares to the GTI standard spec... what options don't you get or would you have to pay more for.

Well you get leather and full nav system as standard on the M135 so thats £2500-£3000 difference for a start..

Hope my dealer comes back with good news on lead time soon otherwise I might have to consider my options  !!

If you wanted leather and nav on the GTI then they are 2 of the priciest options you could spec, so that is a plus. Not a fan of the styling though, it is an improvement on the previous shape.
The thing I like least about the new BMW 1 series (as daft as it sounds) was the cringeworthy advert that launched the new 1 series. There were 2 brothers that had one each and they both came across as complete bell-ends, poundland yuppies. I wondered what BMW were doing putting that ad out. It was almost as if BMW were saying “buy one of these cars and become a complete cock like these 2 herberts”. The advert was dubbed from German so maybe something was lost in translation.

I’ve no doubt that it is a great car to drive and with those discounts and lead times it is a good buy, but the possibility of me being tarred with that image for driving one put me right off. The advert hasn’t been aired for well over a year now so hopefully people have had time to forget.

Sorry for that opinion, nothing to do with you or the car, merely the advert which portrays a poor image of the car/would-be drivers.

[matchboy]

GTI.  Available at some undetermined time in the future.  We hope.

M135i.  You can have it tomorrow, for less money too.

FFS.

Annoying isn't it.  I do less than 10k miles a year as well so running costs are less of an issue for me.  Literally would have had a 135i end of June even if it had been a 12 week wait factory order.  And its quicker.

I suppose at least I have a confirmed build week now.  Still, the way some people have been commenting on cars being at a standstill in ports, my estimated delivery date of mid Sep is still up in the air - really winds me up as it doesn't help with financial planning/organising my diary etc etc 

[RobS23GTI]

BMW are quoting 6-8 weeks on new factory orders for M135i's at the moment as well which is good if there isn't one in stock that you like.

I love the GTI but am not a patient person and the deals BMW are offering are too good to turn down (got my deposit back from VW as well which I wasn't expecting).

I agree most BMW drivers are k***s btw...

[theflash]

It was almost as if BMW were saying “buy one of these cars and become a complete cock like these 2 herberts”.

Wasn't 1 guy Sport C*ck and the other Urban C*ck? 

Honestly though they are great driving cars just the looks don't do anything for me.

[Bill_the_Bear]

Annoying isn't it.  I do less than 10k miles a year as well so running costs are less of an issue for me.  Literally would have had a 135i end of June even if it had been a 12 week wait factory order.  And its quicker.

I suppose at least I have a confirmed build week now.  Still, the way some people have been commenting on cars being at a standstill in ports, my estimated delivery date of mid Sep is still up in the air - really winds me up as it doesn't help with financial planning/organising my diary etc etc 

There is a brand new BMW dealer 200m from my front door.  Right now it is hard not to call them and say "I've ordered a GTI but VW are pissing me around, give me a M135i test drive and your best offer to convince me to cancel the GTI and go with you."  then see what they can do.

I wanted the GTI though and its been 3 months, perhaps I should just sit and wait 3 more.  Its so annoying to think I could be driving a car with 50% more power and probably costing a few grand less this week... or wait for how long?  3 more months?  4?

[matchboy]

BMW are quoting 6-8 weeks on new factory orders for M135i's at the moment as well which is good if there isn't one in stock that you like.

I love the GTI but am not a patient person and the deals BMW are offering are too good to turn down (got my deposit back from VW as well which I wasn't expecting).

I agree most BMW drivers are k***s btw...

That's a more than acceptable wait, and the deals they're doing at the moment are excellent.

Yeah, most BMW drivers are (unts, but to be fair when you're in one you couldn't care less! (and the indicators stop working  )

[matchboy]

Annoying isn't it.  I do less than 10k miles a year as well so running costs are less of an issue for me.  Literally would have had a 135i end of June even if it had been a 12 week wait factory order.  And its quicker.

I suppose at least I have a confirmed build week now.  Still, the way some people have been commenting on cars being at a standstill in ports, my estimated delivery date of mid Sep is still up in the air - really winds me up as it doesn't help with financial planning/organising my diary etc etc 

There is a brand new BMW dealer 200m from my front door.  Right now it is hard not to call them and say "I've ordered a GTI but VW are pissing me around, give me a M135i test drive and your best offer to convince me to cancel the GTI and go with you."  then see what they can do.

I wanted the GTI though and its been 3 months, perhaps I should just sit and wait 3 more.  Its so annoying to think I could be driving a car with 50% more power and probably costing a few grand less this week... or wait for how long?  3 more months?  4?

And you still haven't been given a BW yet right?  I know what I'd do - if I was in your position I'd be telling VW to shove it - the only reason I'm not is because I've potentially only got another 6 weeks to wait....but if it was 3 months more then I'd be scooting over to Mr Beemer and going for a test drive....