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Offline Rhyso

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Re: Mk7 gtd
« Reply #10 on: 26 July 2013, 16:28 »
How easy are these boxes to fit? Also I'm led to believe a remap would be better for the engine longer term?

Takes less than 5 minutes to fit. As long as you avoid the cheap sh!te than a high quality box will be just fine. It will never give the full experience of a remap but they are very good for what they are  :smiley:

Thanks, in what way would it differ from a remap? Obviously the gains seem to be as impressive as a remap, if not better. Is it just power delivery and that?

Remap controls lots of variables within the ECU so gives sharper, more instant throttle response. You can get the balance exactly as you want it

A tuning box is much more simplistic and obviously does not allow for such fine controls. However stick to brand names and reputable companiesand you wont go far wrong

I had a customer with an Astra today who had tried a £60 tuning box and binned it after a week as it kept giving him problems and throwing the car into limp mode

On the other scale i fitted a tuning box that I supply to a brand new Transporter and that gave a nice smooth delivery and didnt throw the van into limp mode!!


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Re: Mk7 gtd
« Reply #11 on: 26 July 2013, 16:52 »
Thanks for that Rhyso, I assume tdi-tuning are a reputable company? Their logo is similar to your logo, are you a representative?

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Re: Mk7 gtd
« Reply #12 on: 26 July 2013, 17:21 »
Thanks for that Rhyso, I assume tdi-tuning are a reputable company? Their logo is similar to your logo, are you a representative?

Never heard anything bad about them  :smiley:

Nope I'm just me  :smiley:

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Re: Mk7 gtd
« Reply #13 on: 28 July 2013, 11:47 »
Rhyso's tuning boxes needs to be added to your list of many talents mate ;-)

The ones you sell give around 100% of the torque you'd get from a remap with around 66% of extra the power too if I'm not mistaken?

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« Reply #14 on: 28 July 2013, 12:52 »
Rhyso's tuning boxes needs to be added to your list of many talents mate ;-)

The ones you sell give around 100% of the torque you'd get from a remap with around 66% of extra the power too if I'm not mistaken?

You are spot on Doc  :nerd:

The boxes also allow you to adjust for more power and or a wider power band  :smiley:  that and the fact they can be removed from the vehicle within minutes gives the owner a lot of flexibility  :smiley:

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« Reply #15 on: 01 August 2013, 21:02 »
How easy are these boxes to fit? Also I'm led to believe a remap would be better for the engine longer term?

Takes less than 5 minutes to fit. As long as you avoid the cheap sh!te than a high quality box will be just fine. It will never give the full experience of a remap but they are very good for what they are  :smiley:

Thanks, in what way would it differ from a remap? Obviously the gains seem to be as impressive as a remap, if not better. Is it just power delivery and that?

Remap controls lots of variables within the ECU so gives sharper, more instant throttle response. You can get the balance exactly as you want it

A tuning box is much more simplistic and obviously does not allow for such fine controls. However stick to brand names and reputable companiesand you wont go far wrong

I had a customer with an Astra today who had tried a £60 tuning box and binned it after a week as it kept giving him problems and throwing the car into limp mode

On the other scale i fitted a tuning box that I supply to a brand new Transporter and that gave a nice smooth delivery and didnt throw the van into limp mode!!

Hi Rhyso, I'm interested in your comments and would like some clarification. I have to be honest I've never had a car re-mapped or owned a chip box before, and it's something I've promised I'll do this time round with my GTD. I have no idea how they work.

When you say a remap gives sharper throttle response etc, do you mean on top of what the car would be like normally before modification? Or will a chip box go the other way and make it feel worse than the car does as standard.

I'd love more power and the gains quoted here are very attractive. Will plugging in this box give me lower throttle response? Or can I expect it to be the same 'feel' but just with more grunt?

What I don't want is to have added a chip box but I then think "sh!t the throttle feels laggy". "The power isn't smooth". Does that make sense?

I would like the same car but with more power and torque. Would you suggest a remap or a chip box to achieve this?

P.S Thanks in advance! :)
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Re: Mk7 gtd
« Reply #16 on: 01 August 2013, 21:21 »
Hi Rhyso, I'm interested in your comments and would like some clarification. I have to be honest I've never had a car re-mapped or owned a chip box before, and it's something I've promised I'll do this time round with my GTD. I have no idea how they work.

When you say a remap gives sharper throttle response etc, do you mean on top of what the car would be like normally before modification? Or will a chip box go the other way and make it feel worse than the car does as standard.

I'd love more power and the gains quoted here are very attractive. Will plugging in this box give me lower throttle response? Or can I expect it to be the same 'feel' but just with more grunt?

What I don't want is to have added a chip box but I then think "sh!t the throttle feels laggy". "The power isn't smooth". Does that make sense?

I would like the same car but with more power and torque. Would you suggest a remap or a chip box to achieve this?

P.S Thanks in advance! :)

Throttle response from the factory is usually pretty dead. A remap greatly improves this and is most noticeable when you are pulling away at junctions etc. A tuning box will achieve the same result but not to quite the same extent

The differences between a remap and a tuning box ares subtle and the difference you'd feel would be largely down to how good the remap / tuning box is. The are many different ways of tuning a vehicle. The hardest part is getting it just right

For example I re-did a BMW which had a very sharp throttle response and had been maxed out for torque but that was leading to masses of black smoke and clutch slip along with the owner finding it difficult to modulate the power

The end result after I had a play was a much more progressive throttle, no smoke and no clutch slip but without reducing the overall power of the car  :smiley:

The devil is in the detail  :wink:

Ultimately a remap is far better than a tuning box simply because you have more control over the variables

However, not everyone wants their ECU ripped apart so a tuning box offers a good alternative. Just stay away from the cheap Ebay ones as they will do more harm than good  :smiley:

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Re: Mk7 gtd
« Reply #17 on: 01 August 2013, 22:58 »
Adjustable tuning boxes can be a good addition as rhyso says due to easily installation and removal   :cool:


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Re: Mk7 gtd
« Reply #18 on: 05 August 2013, 13:45 »
Thank you all for the responses, that's a big help for me in making my decision.

So regardless of whether you opt for a Tuning Box or a remap, the feel of the throttle will be increased from standard. That's great.

I like the idea of having something physical to just plug in, rather than having the ECU tinkered with. And the ability to add and remove as and when I please is something i'd like.

Thank you for that, as soon as i've put some miles on the GTD when it arrives I shall be purchasing one of these. The thought of 240bhp is making me giggle like a mad man.
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Re: Mk7 gtd
« Reply #19 on: 18 September 2013, 14:54 »
http://www.diesel-performance.co.uk/vehicle-volkswagen-vw_golf-vii_2.0-tdi-184-ps-(2013-)

Hmmmmmm...unsure about this. Would prefer a remap but if this does as it says, that's not a bad increase  :evil:
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