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Re: Manual 0-60 vs. DSG 0-60
« Reply #10 on: 19 July 2013, 10:47 »
I agree, with identical revs and otherwise identical conditions, DSG will beat manual by a fraction of a second purely because it is a faster gear change.  But, with a manual you have more driver control.
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Re: Manual 0-60 vs. DSG 0-60
« Reply #11 on: 19 July 2013, 11:02 »
So if VW state 0-62 is 6.5 (PP 6.4), what are the actual 0-60 times - 0.2 secs off the 0-62?

In a straight line from a standing start, as much as I hate to admit it having ordered a manual, the DSG would be fractionally ahead.  I love a ultra quick gear change when nailing it, but no way that is quicker than a paddle flick.
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Re: Manual 0-60 vs. DSG 0-60
« Reply #12 on: 19 July 2013, 11:19 »
So if VW state 0-62 is 6.5 (PP 6.4), what are the actual 0-60 times - 0.2 secs off the 0-62?

In a straight line from a standing start, as much as I hate to admit it having ordered a manual, the DSG would be fractionally ahead.  I love a ultra quick gear change when nailing it, but no way that is quicker than a paddle flick.

Every launch control start I have seen from the MK7 DSG GTI has sounded like it bogged down massively. I reckon with full control over the revs in a manual you could beat the DSG car. Harder to get consistency in a manual but has the control to be faster.
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Re: Manual 0-60 vs. DSG 0-60
« Reply #13 on: 19 July 2013, 11:49 »
So if VW state 0-62 is 6.5 (PP 6.4), what are the actual 0-60 times - 0.2 secs off the 0-62?

In a straight line from a standing start, as much as I hate to admit it having ordered a manual, the DSG would be fractionally ahead.  I love a ultra quick gear change when nailing it, but no way that is quicker than a paddle flick.

Every launch control start I have seen from the MK7 DSG GTI has sounded like it bogged down massively. I reckon with full control over the revs in a manual you could beat the DSG car. Harder to get consistency in a manual but has the control to be faster.

You are right, I was just trying to be nice to my DSG brothers, of course I'd beat a DSG off the line!!  :grin:
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Re: Manual 0-60 vs. DSG 0-60
« Reply #14 on: 19 July 2013, 13:12 »
theres only one way to find out! someone whos lucky enough to already have a manual needs to try a 0-60/62 run and film it
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Re: Manual 0-60 vs. DSG 0-60
« Reply #15 on: 19 July 2013, 13:30 »
theres only one way to find out! someone whos lucky enough to already have a manual needs to try a 0-60/62 run and film it

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Re: Manual 0-60 vs. DSG 0-60
« Reply #16 on: 19 July 2013, 14:10 »
You can launch control the DSG and I would expect 9/10 times the DSG would win. Also there is minimal boost loss between changes.

Of course you can install WOT box for the manual but I don't have any experience with them.

DSG has been shown to stick with slightly higher powered cars:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBoyIq8zNOY

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Re: Manual 0-60 vs. DSG 0-60
« Reply #17 on: 19 July 2013, 16:21 »
You can launch control the DSG and I would expect 9/10 times the DSG would win. Also there is minimal boost loss between changes.

Of course you can install WOT box for the manual but I don't have any experience with them.

DSG has been shown to stick with slightly higher powered cars:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBoyIq8zNOY

Why do all the videos of the MK7 GTI DSG bog down for what feels like at least a second at the end of first gear?

Watch this 6.1s run for example:

http://youtu.be/r9S3BvBXJD8

At the top of the rev range in first it just sits there not accelerating at all for ages, my hand and feet would be way quicker into second gear.
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Re: Manual 0-60 vs. DSG 0-60
« Reply #18 on: 19 July 2013, 16:59 »
You can launch control the DSG and I would expect 9/10 times the DSG would win. Also there is minimal boost loss between changes.

Of course you can install WOT box for the manual but I don't have any experience with them.

DSG has been shown to stick with slightly higher powered cars:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBoyIq8zNOY

Why do all the videos of the MK7 GTI DSG bog down for what feels like at least a second at the end of first gear?

Watch this 6.1s run for example:

http://youtu.be/r9S3BvBXJD8

At the top of the rev range in first it just sits there not accelerating at all for ages, my hand and feet would be way quicker into second gear.

There is a long pause perhaps paddle shift intervention would help but there's so many variables it's hard to say.

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Re: Manual 0-60 vs. DSG 0-60
« Reply #19 on: 19 July 2013, 17:06 »
You can launch control the DSG and I would expect 9/10 times the DSG would win. Also there is minimal boost loss between changes.

Of course you can install WOT box for the manual but I don't have any experience with them.

DSG has been shown to stick with slightly higher powered cars:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBoyIq8zNOY

Why do all the videos of the MK7 GTI DSG bog down for what feels like at least a second at the end of first gear?

Watch this 6.1s run for example:

http://youtu.be/r9S3BvBXJD8

At the top of the rev range in first it just sits there not accelerating at all for ages, my hand and feet would be way quicker into second gear.

There is a long pause perhaps paddle shift intervention would help but there's so many variables it's hard to say.

All other mk7 DSG  0-60 runs seem the same.
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