Golf R /RD

[AlanH]

"A little more patience must find the driver of the upcoming VW Golf RD, but the first diesel-R has it still lurks behind the ears."

Hard to disagree with that.

[monkeyhanger]

Why not a 225PS Diesel to sit above the GTI and GTD? It would be an "R" - not competing with the GTI at all. Be interesting to see what they could do about the price though considering how well specced the GTD already is. The extra turbo is realistically only worth an extra £800-1000, maybe add the e-diff and bigger brakes of the performance pack for another £700 and extra special seats adding £500 to £1000 depending on whether they're like MK6 GTI seats or full blown recaros to make a £2000-2800 premium over the GTD? Not forgetting possible 19" wheels as standard.

The pictures of that R don't look as good as the GTI IMO. Would I pay an extra £3k over a GTD for an RD? Nope, i'd get a GTI if the difference was that much and the combined mpg dropped to 55mpg. I'd pay an extra grand over the GTD purely for the perfromance hike, not wanting all the superfluous extras, but i'm doubting VW will make it that easy to own one.

[Gordor]

Why not a 225PS Diesel to sit above the GTI and GTD? It would be an "R" - not competing with the GTI at all. Be interesting to see what they could do about the price though considering how well specced the GTD already is. The extra turbo is realistically only worth an extra £800-1000, maybe add the e-diff and bigger brakes of the performance pack for another £700 and extra special seats adding £500 to £1000 depending on whether they're like MK6 GTI seats or full blown recaros to make a £2000-2800 premium over the GTD? Not forgetting possible 19" wheels as standard.

The pictures of that R don't look as good as the GTI IMO. Would I pay an extra £3k over a GTD for an RD? Nope, i'd get a GTI if the difference was that much and the combined mpg dropped to 55mpg. I'd pay an extra grand over the GTD purely for the perfromance hike, not wanting all the superfluous extras, but i'm doubting VW will make it that easy to own one.

Oh... a 5 door one, perhaps they are not making a 3 door 

[monkeyhanger]

Be interesting if they did release it, performance will likely be on a par with the GTI.

I don't believe VW would do that.  Have a diesel golf quicker than the GTI no 

I think they would. GTI is not the holy grail of VW performance and hasn't been for a long time. They will do whatever makes them money and they've been on the backfoot with biturbo diesel for a long time, with Vauxhall and BMW both offering one. You've got to be a hard core VW fan to pay out for an R Golf or Scirocco, the price puts it on the edge of a whole new set of competitors and their residuals are usually worse than the GTI by a long way - Scirocco R is a prime example. Anyone selling one of those on the used market will only see around £1500 more than a 2.0TSI GT even though it cost £5k more.

[Movi]

Why not a 225PS Diesel to sit above the GTI and GTD? It would be an "R" - not competing with the GTI at all. Be interesting to see what they could do about the price though considering how well specced the GTD already is. The extra turbo is realistically only worth an extra £800-1000, maybe add the e-diff and bigger brakes of the performance pack for another £700 and extra special seats adding £500 to £1000 depending on whether they're like MK6 GTI seats or full blown recaros to make a £2000-2800 premium over the GTD? Not forgetting possible 19" wheels as standard.

The pictures of that R don't look as good as the GTI IMO. Would I pay an extra £3k over a GTD for an RD? Nope, i'd get a GTI if the difference was that much and the combined mpg dropped to 55mpg. I'd pay an extra grand over the GTD purely for the perfromance hike, not wanting all the superfluous extras, but i'm doubting VW will make it that easy to own one.

Dont forget the addition of 4wd.

[Hawaii-Five-O]

This is all pure speculation, but great fun. Got me all excited just thinking about it

Now then how about a Golf R-TDI, 250PS, 500 Nm, 4Motion, Bi-Turbo with eLSD

Would you buy one?

Trouble is I don't think VW could price it right - but it would make one hell of a tour de force!

[Buck]

Bi-turbo Golf RD is entirely feasible.  Just take a look at the Audi SQ5 - yep that's a diesel.

http://vimeo.com/45898885

and acceleration http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYqjvFF0Vy8

[monkeyhanger]

Bi-turbo Golf RD is entirely feasible.  Just take a look at the Audi SQ5 - yep that's a diesel.

http://vimeo.com/45898885

and acceleration http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYqjvFF0Vy8

The A6 already has access to a Bi-turbo diesel, albeit the 3.0 unit (313bhp) - shouldn't be too hard to imagine a 2.0TDI unit

[drisser]

Wouldnt get me buying an R D - ever !

Whatever way you cut it diesel engines dont deliver the same fun or rev range as petrol...  In the same way that going for a GTD delivers a different drive to a GTi, an RD I guess would be the same..

Yes they have tons of torque, but so does the new GTi - normally performance diesels have a ton more torque than a petrol engine but that gap seems to be closing.

If I wanted a higher performance drive than a GTi I would buy a Golf R or and Audi S3 or BMW M1 or something similar.  Unless I need the economy, diesel just doesn't cut it for me, I like the combination of decent low rev torque (which all modern petrol turbo engines have) and top end power / noise.

[Gryzor]

Wouldnt get me buying an R D - ever !

Whatever way you cut it diesel engines dont deliver the same fun or rev range as petrol...  In the same way that going for a GTD delivers a different drive to a GTi, an RD I guess would be the same..

Yes they have tons of torque, but so does the new GTi - normally performance diesels have a ton more torque than a petrol engine but that gap seems to be closing.

If I wanted a higher performance drive than a GTi I would buy a Golf R or and Audi S3 or BMW M1 or something similar.  Unless I need the economy, diesel just doesn't cut it for me, I like the combination of decent low rev torque (which all modern petrol turbo engines have) and top end power / noise.

Pretty much sums up exactly why I've gone for GTI over GTD or any other potential future derivative.  Besides the drive, I also love the way it looks.