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Offline andygo

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cruise control /vcds coding issue
« on: 05 July 2013, 10:37 »
I bought a new cruise stalk from my VW dealer. I coded it in using my vagcom/vcds hex can cable.

It only activates intermittently, and then only at the speed I am travelling at. The rocker switch doesn't have any effect on the speed, although when looking at the measuring block section in the steering wheel controller on vcds it shows that the switch is working.

I coded the engine by going into engine>coding and used the long codinging helper. Box 11
I coded the wheel by using the suggested value (1) and changed the code from 502 to 512. However that is for a 6 position seperate stalk rather than a 4 position stalk with cruise integrated. It wont let me change the code from 502 to 522 though as its out of range.

I think I'm being a bit thick here.....

Where am I going wrong?

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Re: cruise control /vcds coding issue
« Reply #1 on: 05 July 2013, 22:41 »
My wheel coding is

Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY9.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 CF    HW: 1K0 953 549 CF
   Component: J0527           056 0111 
   Coding: 0000732
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 78F513B00B274CD819D

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5K0 959 542   Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
   Component: E221__MFL-TAS   H05 0010 
   Coding: 00000130
   Shop #: WSC 00000 

If it helps.

try this

http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/VW_Golf_(1K)_Steering_Wheel#Coding

Actually looking at it you need 532.
« Last Edit: 05 July 2013, 22:49 by ajmoir36 »
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Offline andygo

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Re: cruise control /vcds coding issue
« Reply #2 on: 06 July 2013, 11:55 »
I have just tried 532 and it said code accepted..

It works! I'm sure i tried 532 before though..

Doh!

Cheers for that, its been driving me nuts!   :cool: :cool:
« Last Edit: 06 July 2013, 12:06 by andygo »

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Re: cruise control /vcds coding issue
« Reply #3 on: 06 July 2013, 15:42 »
Hope it all works fine and enjoy I call it lazy driving  :cool:
2012 black pearl Golf gti mark 6 5 door leather cruise 510rns bluetooth acc dab sunroof park assist rear camera parking sensors storage pack and the luxury pack :-) sold :/( now aiming a 2013 passat alltrack

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Re: cruise control /vcds coding issue
« Reply #4 on: 06 July 2013, 15:55 »
829 miles in one hit down to the dordogne means its pretty essential!

As a matter of interest, looking at the vagcom/vcds code list, how did you arrive at 523?

I only got the mew cable last tuesday, so a bit of a newbie...
« Last Edit: 06 July 2013, 15:59 by andygo »

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Re: cruise control /vcds coding issue
« Reply #5 on: 06 July 2013, 21:15 »
Logic really you said you were 502 to start with:

Looking at the data below and what my car has 732.

0?xxxxx the ? is the digit

so            before     mine         new
0xxx?xx: = 5            7             5
0xxxx?x: = 0            3             3
0xxxxx?: = 2            2             2

in the 0101 section 5 doesnt fit at all (see in red)
in the 0110 section 5 fits in the list (again see in red)

So this leaves the 0xxxx?x: which is 0 to start with 0 = Cruise Control System (CCS) not installed


The following table applies to Control Modules with Software Version 0101 or lower.

0?xxxxx: Vehicle Type
0 = Normal
1 = Special Purpose (e.g Taxi)
0x?xxxx: Transmission
0 = Manual Transmission
1 = Automatic Transmission
0xx?xxx: Steering Wheel
0 = Steering Wheel without Multifunction
1 = 3-Spoke Steering Wheel without Multifunction
2 = 3/4-Spoke Steering Wheel with Multifunction without Cruise & Voice Control
3 = 3/4-Spoke Steering Wheel with Multifunction with Cruise & Voice Control
0xxx?xx: Additional Equipment 5 doesnt fit here
+1 = Tiptronic (Shift Paddels)
0xxxx?x: Board Computer / Cruise Control System (CCS)
0 = w/o Board Computer and w/o Cruise Control System (CCS)
1 = with Board Computer and w/o Cruise Control System (CCS)
2 = w/o Board Computer and with Cruise Control System (CCS)
4 = with Board Computer and with Cruise Control System (CCS)
0xxxxx?: Rear Wiper
1 = Rear Wiper not installed
2 = Rear Wiper installed

The following table applies to Control Modules with Software Version 0110 or higher.

0?xxxxx: Driver-Assistance-Systems
0 = Driver-Assistance-Systems not installed
0 = Message for Driver-Assistance-Systems active w/o Button
1 = Message for Driver-Assistance-Systems inactive w/o Button
2 = Message for Driver-Assistance-Systems active with Button
3 = Message for Driver-Assistance-Systems inactive with Button
0x?xxxx: Vehicle Type
0 = Normal
1 = Special Purpose with Multi-Function Control Module (Steer. Column. Contr. Mod. as Master)
2 = Special Purpose with Multi-Function Control Module (Multi-Function Contr. Mod. as Master)
0xx?xxx: Transmission
0 = Manual Transmission
1 = Automatic Transmission
0xxx?xx: Multi-Function Steering Wheel
0 = Multi-Function Steering Wheel not installed
5 = Multi-Function Steering Wheel w/o Tiptronic and w/o Push-To-Talk (PTT) installed 5 fits here
6 = Multi-Function Steering Wheel with Tiptronic and no Push-To-Talk (PTT) installed
7 = Multi-Function Steering Wheel w/o Tiptronic and with Push-To-Talk (PTT) installed I have bluetooth so mine is a 7 and I need the push to talk button
8 = Multi-Function Steering Wheel with Tiptronic and with Push-To-Talk (PTT) installed
0xxxx?x: Cruise Control System (CCS) and Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC)
0 = Cruise Control System (CCS) not installed this is what we started with
1 = Cruise Control System (CCS) with 6 Positions via separate Stalk installed
2 = Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC) with 6 Positions via separate Stalk installed
3 = Cruise Control System (CCS) with 4 Positions via Blinker Stallk installed I have cruise so I assume its this its not adaptive cruise and the buttons are on the stalk not on the steering wheel
4 = Cruise Control System (CCS) via Multi-Function Steering Wheel installed
5 = Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC) via Multi-Function Steering Wheel installed
0xxxxx?: Rear Wiper and Board Computer
1 = Rear Wiper not installed / Board Computer via Wiper Stalk not installed
2 = Rear Wiper installed / Board Computer via Wiper Stalk not installed We have board computer on the steering wheel not on the end of the wiper stalk
3 = Rear Wiper not installed / Board Computer via Wiper Stalk verbaut
4 = Rear Wiper installed / Board Computer via Wiper Stalk installed
« Last Edit: 06 July 2013, 21:23 by ajmoir36 »
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Re: cruise control /vcds coding issue
« Reply #6 on: 07 July 2013, 08:33 »
I'm pretty sure my coding table didn't have a 3 or if it did, at the time it wouldn't accept the coding. I'll have a look later I'm confused. (But happy!)
« Last Edit: 07 July 2013, 08:37 by andygo »

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Re: cruise control /vcds coding issue
« Reply #7 on: 07 July 2013, 15:39 »
You started with a 502 you need the 532 for the cruise to be actived with the 4 stalk one as per the list

i.e.
before
     5                                  (0xxxx5xx)
     0 (cruise not installed)      (0xxxxx0x)
     2                                  (0xxxxxx2)

after   
     5                                  (0xxxx5xx)
     3 (cruise 4 stalk installed) (0xxxxx3x)
     2                                  (0xxxxxx2)
Diagonally parked in a parallel universe.
On Order: Mk8 R, Pure White, Reversing Camera, Harmon Kardon, Heated seats all round.
Gone: Mk7.5 R, 5dr, DSG, Deep Pearl Black, 18” Cadiz, Nav, Winter Pack, Keyless, Dynaudio and Reversing camera.
Gone: Mk7 R, 5dr, DSG, Limestone Grey, 19" Pretoria's, Nav Pro, DCC, Winter Pack, Keyless, Mobile Prep and Reversing Camera.
Gone: Mk6 GTD, 5dr, Manual, Tornado Red, 18" Vancouvers, RCD510 + Dynaudio, heated seats.