DTUK box on a Mk7 GTI GTD results

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[GrahamFR]

Facebook they only did it yesterday.

Cheers mate. Did they mention if it was the stage 1 or stage 2 kit?

It won't Be stage 2 as they would need to unlock the ecu to turn the dpf regen off, the boxes that offer two stages aren't really stage 2

Or do they mean "stage 2" as in dual channel system rather than single channel (common rail only)?

I know what you mean but there not really stage 2, and i didnt know if DTUK did two stages of tunes for stage 1, i know ive seen some in the past that do and ive always struggled to understand why anyone would want a lesser tune from stage 1.

Im very interested to see what a proper tdi mapper can do with the new 184 engine w/o the DPF, as i nearly didnt buy my GTi and stayed loyal to the black pump and if i have to do a shed load more miles again it will be on the horizon.

[Andrew@DTUK]

At the weekend we headed down to Shark Performance to use their dyno, and also look at combining our knowledge to see what we could achieve..

This is an ongoing project which ill update regularly..

I posted this on another forum earlier today

talk is always good..


We've been involved with dual channel systems for VAG/BMW/MERC/Vauxhall for nearly 3 years now, intact we've been tuning the 2.0 140/170 with a dual channel system since 2009 and have dyno graphs from that engine showing a nice smooth curve and 220bhp and 443nm

the latest range of EA288 TDI engines in my eyes are a revelation, so much so i actually love driving our vRS

Getting onto the nitty gritty, we all know that tuned figures are like the lottery. Some of the claims being made are in my eyes unachievable, ok ill rephrase that and say that a high spike of bhp to hit the numbers is achievable but at the sacrifice of drivability.

As maisbitt has mentioned, he has loads of power but by the sounds of it his car is bordering on being undriveable as he is losing traction.

We've been working on software this last couple of weeks (without the dyn0) and we can give our customers an undriveable peaky map that within the dyno lottery would probably give 235bhp.. Yeah I've got 235bhp but i can't drive the car.

A true tuner wants to give their customers a tuned car that they can actually use, and this is why we differ from the competition and why we've invested over £25,000 in our own Octavia. This latest 2.0 184PS is going to be very popular, and we want to be the tuner of choice for VAG owners.

Im sure many of you have heard of Shark Performance, and i know that within the Skoda community they have a very good reputation, intact we used a shark performance STS on our own S3 and would be the inly people i would use for a remap.

So moving onto the 2.0 184PS

We did plan on going to our usual dyno based at Motoscope in Northallerton as this is the dyno we've used for the last 8/9 years and their figures are consistent.

2009 our 2.0TDI Seat Leon produced 210bhp and 443nm
2013 our TT TDI produced 220bhp and 443nm of torque

In those 4 years we have tweaked and developed the software which is what we will do with the latest 2.0TDI'S.

As this new engine is going to be shot topic we decided to goto a different dyno, and chose Shark's in Mansfield, factor in that they also have their own Octavia vRS and are interested in seeing exactly what we can offer them for their customers who don't want their edu opened up..

I will be posting a full write up on this forum and many others later this week, to summarise the results from saturday..


In standard form the vRS produced

141bhp at the wheel - 179.2 at the flywheel and 378nm of torque at 3003rpm

we dynode several files that we had written using the bum dyno, and the figures ranged from 210bhp unto 226bhp, but th torque on all of these files was sitting between 475 and 490nm.

After a day working with Ben on the dyno we created a smooth drivable file that produced

183bhp at the wheel - 221bhp at the flywheel and 489nm at 2150rpm


anybody that's anybody will agree that those figures are worthless as we could take the same car to 6 other dynos and the figures would vary for me the important thing i always look at are the % increases at the wheel as this takes away all of the correction bull.

So if you look at the 141 to 183bhp figures you'll see that they have increased by 29.7%

So if we were to add 29.7% to 184ps quoted by VAG then the expected figure we could quote on our website would be 239PS


so there we go, the unachievable figure i mentioned above is actually achievable but in reality on sharks dyno we only produced 221bhp..

I hope you guys are following where I'm going with this?


Either way we do intend to take our car to our usual dyno, and run the same files that we did on saturday and i guarantee the figures will be different.


So if youre looking for a company that is passionate about tuning cars, and are in it for the long term then you know who to talk too..

And this is before the introduction of a 3 channel system we are looking to develop with Shark Performance

oh yeah, the dyno sheet..



and a video..

DTUK VRS 2.0 TDI 184 PS - YouTube

[Andrew@DTUK]

If anyone is interested I have dyno sheets from a brand new Audi s3 that's been on the dyno today..

Gains were 46bhp and 60nm..

[2014GTi]

If anyone is interested I have dyno sheets from a brand new Audi s3 that's been on the dyno today..

Gains were 46bhp and 60nm..

So we should expect similar results for the Golf R
342bhp and 440nm approx.

[Andrew@DTUK]

If anyone is interested I have dyno sheets from a brand new Audi s3 that's been on the dyno today..

Gains were 46bhp and 60nm..

So we should expect similar results for the Golf R
342bhp and 440nm approx.

Yeah 

[GrahamFR]

If anyone is interested I have dyno sheets from a brand new Audi s3 that's been on the dyno today..

Gains were 46bhp and 60nm..

So we should expect similar results for the Golf R
342bhp and 440nm approx.

Yeah 

Impressive gain Andrew, similar to the mk6 R mapping increase amount. Is any work being done at shark to see an improvement on the IHI turbo'd cars or are the figures your website the final ones?

[Andrew@DTUK]

If anyone is interested I have dyno sheets from a brand new Audi s3 that's been on the dyno today..

Gains were 46bhp and 60nm..

So we should expect similar results for the Golf R
342bhp and 440nm approx.

Yeah 

Impressive gain Andrew, similar to the mk6 R mapping increase amount. Is any work being done at shark to see an improvement on the IHI turbo'd cars or are the figures your website the final ones?

There is work planned for this next week I'll post updates and figures once I receive them

[GrahamFR]

If anyone is interested I have dyno sheets from a brand new Audi s3 that's been on the dyno today..

Gains were 46bhp and 60nm..

So we should expect similar results for the Golf R
342bhp and 440nm approx.

Yeah 

Impressive gain Andrew, similar to the mk6 R mapping increase amount. Is any work being done at shark to see an improvement on the IHI turbo'd cars or are the figures your website the final ones?

There is work planned for this next week I'll post updates and figures once I receive them

At Shark? I'll be popping in to borrow their vcds on Tuesday and would be cool to see work in progress

[madmax889]

Hi all

Sorry for another post. I have a 2011 GTD and have the DTUK box. But am unable to distinguish the boost pressure sensor.

Can anyone post a pic of it and it's location for me? I'll give you some feedback on it performance.

Cheers