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Offline barrym381

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Re: DTUK box on a Mk7 GTI results
« Reply #90 on: 29 September 2013, 13:18 »
Any idea what makes it stage 2?? Does it just run more boost or something??
It has just got more power mate. I am not easily pleased Barry lol and given i know how good my ed30 was I know it would trounce it lol
a better hope not to meet this at the lights then  :laugh:

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Re: DTUK box on a Mk7 GTI results
« Reply #91 on: 29 September 2013, 13:41 »
Any idea what makes it stage 2?? Does it just run more boost or something??
It has just got more power mate. I am not easily pleased Barry lol and given i know how good my ed30 was I know it would trounce it lol
a better hope not to meet this at the lights then  :laugh:


Yes mate your right lol :smiley:

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Re: DTUK box on a Mk7 GTI results
« Reply #92 on: 29 September 2013, 13:44 »
Any idea what makes it stage 2?? Does it just run more boost or something??
It has just got more power mate. I am not easily pleased Barry lol and given i know how good my ed30 was I know it would trounce it lol
a better hope not to meet this at the lights then  :laugh:


Yes mate your right lol :smiley:
always up for a challenge  :grin:

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Re: DTUK box on a Mk7 GTI results
« Reply #93 on: 29 September 2013, 14:13 »
Any idea what makes it stage 2?? Does it just run more boost or something??
It has just got more power mate. I am not easily pleased Barry lol and given i know how good my ed30 was I know it would trounce it lol
a better hope not to meet this at the lights then  :laugh:



Yes mate your right lol :smiley:
always up for a challenge  :grin:
Anytime mate lol

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Re: DTUK box on a Mk7 GTI results
« Reply #94 on: 29 September 2013, 14:21 »
Any idea what makes it stage 2?? Does it just run more boost or something??
It has just got more power mate. I am not easily pleased Barry lol and given i know how good my ed30 was I know it would trounce it lol
a better hope not to meet this at the lights then  :laugh:



Yes mate your right lol :smiley:
always up for a challenge  :grin:
Anytime mate lol
just pm me with the details  :laugh:

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Re: DTUK box on a Mk7 GTI results
« Reply #95 on: 29 September 2013, 14:35 »
The TSI engine in the MK6 is just as tuneable as TFSI imo.

K04 conversion gives around 370 BHP on a reliable rolling road.

I think people need to be a bit more realistic about what they expect...the IHI is a small turbo and isn't intended for out and out pace but spools quickly giving instant torque low down which is suitable in many driving situations in the UK.

Most VAG cars have a linear stock power delivery and will feel flat after coming from a remapped car.

The software vendor you choose will also influence this, some are more aggressive than others in power delivery.

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Re: DTUK box on a Mk7 GTI results
« Reply #96 on: 29 September 2013, 14:42 »
John, I am really interested to hear about how you get on with the tuning box. I will be putting one on mine as soon as I get the car too. How much did it change the insurance? (if at all  :wink: )

I have bought the box so I should get it end of next week so I will let you know how I get on. I have never bothered telling me insurance to be honest lol. Chance I will take. I can get it checked on rolling road and get a read out. But having had so many remaps I will know just by driving it how it compares to my remapped ed35 which was 310bph.

Do you enjoy driving without valid insurance?

An insurance company will probably take any opportunity they can not to pay out! It didn't cost that much extra to declare mine.

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Re: DTUK box on a Mk7 GTI results
« Reply #97 on: 29 September 2013, 14:47 »
The TSI engine in the MK6 is just as tuneable as TFSI imo.

K04 conversion gives around 370 BHP on a reliable rolling road.

I think people need to be a bit more realistic about what they expect...the IHI is a small turbo and isn't intended for out and out pace but spools quickly giving instant torque low down which is suitable in many driving situations in the UK.

Most VAG cars have a linear stock power delivery and will feel flat after coming from a remapped car.

The software vendor you choose will also influence this, some are more aggressive than others in power delivery.

You're not wrong there.
I drove a stock Edition 30 a few years ago and although it was quick I found the lazy spool up time just didn't suit my driving style at all (mostly bendy hilly dual carriageways where instant low to mid range are the most useful characteristics). The same scenario with the old 225bhp 1.8T engines with a similar turbo.
I found at Stage 1 the IHI equipped mk6 was just perfect for those types of roads. My current mk6 is stock but my last one was REVO'd and although the power is 'only' about 260 bhp and 300 lb ft, the delivery made it a real weapon on the road and when I put it on the rollers with a mere 6000 miles on the clock the power graph was really good, really strong power right through the turbo's range and much better than the mk5 GTI Stage 1 I had previously.
I've also had a fair bit of experience of a Blufinned mk6 which has noticeably less power than the REVO but still very useful mid range power and less torque steer and wheelspin.

The Stage 2 Tuning Box will just have some of the settings slightly increased compared to the Stage 2. I will have nothing in common with what we regard as a stage 2 Remap as there will be no hardware additions. With tuning boxes you just up the parameters a bit to get extra power. A bit crude but does the job.
The DTUK box is lower power than the TMC one but would actually be adjustable if you had access to a rolling road I would think.
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Re: DTUK box on a Mk7 GTI results
« Reply #98 on: 29 September 2013, 15:30 »
The TSI engine in the MK6 is just as tuneable as TFSI imo.

K04 conversion gives around 370 BHP on a reliable rolling road.

I think people need to be a bit more realistic about what they expect...the IHI is a small turbo and isn't intended for out and out pace but spools quickly giving instant torque low down which is suitable in many driving situations in the UK.

Most VAG cars have a linear stock power delivery and will feel flat after coming from a remapped car.

The software vendor you choose will also influence this, some are more aggressive than others in power delivery.

You're not wrong there.
I drove a stock Edition 30 a few years ago and although it was quick I found the lazy spool up time just didn't suit my driving style at all (mostly bendy hilly dual carriageways where instant low to mid range are the most useful characteristics). The same scenario with the old 225bhp 1.8T engines with a similar turbo.
I found at Stage 1 the IHI equipped mk6 was just perfect for those types of roads. My current mk6 is stock but my last one was REVO'd and although the power is 'only' about 260 bhp and 300 lb ft, the delivery made it a real weapon on the road and when I put it on the rollers with a mere 6000 miles on the clock the power graph was really good, really strong power right through the turbo's range and much better than the mk5 GTI Stage 1 I had previously.
I've also had a fair bit of experience of a Blufinned mk6 which has noticeably less power than the REVO but still very useful mid range power and less torque steer and wheelspin.

The Stage 2 Tuning Box will just have some of the settings slightly increased compared to the Stage 2. I will have nothing in common with what we regard as a stage 2 Remap as there will be no hardware additions. With tuning boxes you just up the parameters a bit to get extra power. A bit crude but does the job.
The DTUK box is lower power than the TMC one but would actually be adjustable if you had access to a rolling road I would think.

Largely the same for my Revo stage 1. It holds peak power from 4250 all the way to red line.

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Re: DTUK box on a Mk7 GTI results
« Reply #99 on: 29 September 2013, 16:05 »
John, I am really interested to hear about how you get on with the tuning box. I will be putting one on mine as soon as I get the car too. How much did it change the insurance? (if at all  :wink: )

I have bought the box so I should get it end of next week so I will let you know how I get on. I have never bothered telling me insurance to be honest lol. Chance I will take. I can get it checked on rolling road and get a read out. But having had so many remaps I will know just by driving it how it compares to my remapped ed35 which was 310bph.


Do you enjoy driving without valid insurance?

An insurance company will probably take any opportunity they can not to pay out! It didn't cost that much extra to declare mine.
Listen if you want to tell your insurance that's up to you but I am perfectly fine with what I do. And regarding the mk6 it was not as tuneable stock with a stage 1 remap it was pish. Maybe yes changing everything yes. That is why vw stuck with mark 5 engine with e35 and the r. Hence the reason they have upgraded the engine for mk7 to make it more robust with extra torque.