DSG Review - GT, 2.0TDI - update 2 nd drive

[dubber36]

So the question is "can you think quicker than a DSG box for your overtaking selection?". I can, I have experienced first-hand my dad's current car trip itself up more than a few times whilst making it's mind up. I suppose it comes down to how well you know your own car, whether to drop 1 gear or 2, and where in the rev range that gear change is going to take you.

I would say no if we are talking about the time from your initial thought, to zooming off. If you are pootling at 40mph along in 6th gear, then suddenly decide to accelerate hard to overtake a car, the DSG would get you going faster than the manual. There may seem like a delay, but that's because you are not doing anything. In the manual you will be thinking about the gearing changing process, so not realise how long it's taking.

[OF1]

Put it into manual mode, but it was changing gear before me a lot of the time. A flash of the software could be an option like the mk5/6 to force it to hold gears until you decide.

This comment sums up why I wouldn't entertain a DSG box.

[Bill_the_Bear]

Put it into manual mode, but it was changing gear before me a lot of the time. A flash of the software could be an option like the mk5/6 to force it to hold gears until you decide.

This comment sums up why I wouldn't entertain a DSG box.

But it makes no sense.  If the box is in manual mode then it should not be changing gear unless it detects a stall or redline.  However, Jim noted later that he wasn't really focused on the DSG so can't be sure what was happening.  If you just use the paddles to flick a gear while in D or S mode then after 30 seconds the DSG will take over again.  If you want more than 30 seconds then you need to use manual mode.

Its kind of like putting ACC into comfort mode and then saying you'd never use ACC because the ride is too soft.  The DSG needs to be used properly.  If you treat it like a manual box you can't really criticise it for not doing what you want.  You need to treat it like a DSG.  If used properly it will do everything you could want it to except from allowing you to disengage the clutch with your foot.  You can even use the knob to shift if you want just like a manual, although the motion is up down rather than sliding to the gear of choice.

[skippy]

But it makes no sense.  If the box is in manual mode then it should not be changing gear unless it detects a stall or redline.  However, Jim noted later that he wasn't really focused on the DSG so can't be sure what was happening.  If you just use the paddles to flick a gear while in D or S mode then after 30 seconds the DSG will take over again.  If you want more than 30 seconds then you need to use manual mode.

Its kind of like putting ACC into comfort mode and then saying you'd never use ACC because the ride is too soft.  The DSG needs to be used properly.  If you treat it like a manual box you can't really criticise it for not doing what you want.  You need to treat it like a DSG.  If used properly it will do everything you could want it to except from allowing you to disengage the clutch with your foot.  You can even use the knob to shift if you want just like a manual, although the motion is up down rather than sliding to the gear of choice.

Indeed - if the DSG is put into manual mode, control is passed over to you. Only exception (as noted above) is when slowing down, the box will then change down gears for you (or change up if hitting the red line). Apart from that, the car will hold that gear until you decide to change it.

[dubber36]

Indeed - if the DSG is put into manual mode, control is passed over to you. Only exception (as noted above) is when slowing down, the box will then change down gears for you (or change up if hitting the red line). Apart from that, the car will hold that gear until you decide to change it.

Add kickdown to that list too.

[Bill_the_Bear]

Add kickdown to that list too.

Sorry, don't follow this.  You mean it changes down if it detects a stall?  Skippy mentioned that.  Or am I confused?

[peterdoherty]

Add kickdown to that list too.

Sorry, don't follow this.  You mean it changes down if it detects a stall?  Skippy mentioned that.  Or am I confused?

Kickdown on an auto box is when you plant your foot to the floor and the box auto changes down a gear or two for quick acceleration

[Bill_the_Bear]

Add kickdown to that list too.

Sorry, don't follow this.  You mean it changes down if it detects a stall?  Skippy mentioned that.  Or am I confused?

Kickdown on an auto box is when you plant your foot to the floor and the box auto changes down a gear or two for quick acceleration

It does this even if you are in fully manual mode?  Sorry just clarifying.

[peterdoherty]

Think not - i'll check on my DSG box later

EDIT: Just checked on the drive home from work and yep kickdown works in manual mode

[dubber36]

Yes it does, but only if you push the pedal through the carpet.

AMD advertise a DSG software upgrade that gives you full manual control when you are in manual, meaning that you can bounce of the rev limiter, stall, and most importantly loose the kickdown function.