Here we go again

[Bill_the_Bear]

Hmm I was told last weekend, that if I was to order I could expect delivery towards to end of September. Seems like complete BS?

By the looks, new orders today won't be ready until nearer December/January?!

My dealer told me on Monday that if anyone orders this week you'll be lucky to get it by Xmas. Depends on not only lead times but also dealer allocation.

Agreed.  A fresh factory order today (as opposed to a mod of an existing order) is gonna take ages.

I'm not expecting delivery until mid October at the earliest, and I placed my order 2 months ago.  Guessing now but I expect orders have picked up since I ordered too since many more reviews have come out and the demos are on the road so the queue might be getting longer (unless VW are ramping up production to compensate?).

[mk7gti]

All good for the residual values I'm a glass half full type of guy.

[Chief1337]

Fair enough, so in reality an order today wouldn't be with me until December time. Not sure if I can wait that long! :-)

[Gung-Ho]

Well just spare a thought for us poor buggers who've been waiting since March & still don't know what the hells going on....

[Running Man]

All good for the residual values I'm a glass half full type of guy.

Totally agree with you, in fact as I'm driving my mk6 which I love I'm in no rush.  I was trading in my 6 for the 7 but told my dealer today I've changed my mind and I'm keeping the 6 for my wife (and me  )

Going to trade in her Mini Cooper instead........she doesn't know yet but I'm sure she will love it 

[mac7]

You know what, I think all this supply/demand problem is down to VW UK and its dealer network.

I mean, the German factory will be happy to bang out as many cars as people will buy, as they will make a profit on every unit (more so for a higher output with economies of scale).

But VW UK stand to profit more from a restricted supply because of the way we buy cars - they earn an income from the first owner (or two) and by keeping the residuals up earn more when they do finally sell it out of the dealer network. High residuals seem to help us as first owners, but in fact keeps just helps VW UK line their pockets.

I can imagine this is even more important these days on the GTI/GTD/R as they are loaded with extras which would have been expensive options only a few years ago - got to fund those somehow.

I don't like VW UK - I've bought several of my previous VW's in UK spec from European dealers but don't seem to be able to any more.

[Bill_the_Bear]

All good for the residual values I'm a glass half full type of guy.

Totally agree with you, in fact as I'm driving my mk6 which I love I'm in no rush.  I was trading in my 6 for the 7 but told my dealer today I've changed my mind and I'm keeping the 6 for my wife (and me  )

Going to trade in her Mini Cooper instead........she doesn't know yet but I'm sure she will love it 

Ooh, good luck!  I once told my wife she could have my car and she looked grumpy and told me she didn't want my second hand car.  This I did not expect as the car I was offering her was worth 6x the value of the car she was driving and was considerably newer and vastly better equipped... Yet because I was "passing it off to her" the value in her eyes was nil.  Women are "funny" sometimes, well from the male perspective! 

[Running Man]

All good for the residual values I'm a glass half full type of guy.

Totally agree with you, in fact as I'm driving my mk6 which I love I'm in no rush.  I was trading in my 6 for the 7 but told my dealer today I've changed my mind and I'm keeping the 6 for my wife (and me  )

Going to trade in her Mini Cooper instead........she doesn't know yet but I'm sure she will love it 

Ooh, good luck!  I once told my wife she could have my car and she looked grumpy and told me she didn't want my second hand car.  This I did not expect as the car I was offering her was worth 6x the value of the car she was driving and was considerably newer and vastly better equipped... Yet because I was "passing it off to her" the value in her eyes was nil.  Women are "funny" sometimes, well from the male perspective! 

I know what you mean but she loves the 6 GTI, just never driven it........yet 

[Nairn1980]

Yep we just had the dealer call to say our GTD was now week 37 instead of 32... GREAT!!

[monkeyhanger]

You know what, I think all this supply/demand problem is down to VW UK and its dealer network.

I mean, the German factory will be happy to bang out as many cars as people will buy, as they will make a profit on every unit (more so for a higher output with economies of scale).

But VW UK stand to profit more from a restricted supply because of the way we buy cars - they earn an income from the first owner (or two) and by keeping the residuals up earn more when they do finally sell it out of the dealer network. High residuals seem to help us as first owners, but in fact keeps just helps VW UK line their pockets.

VW keep residuals as high as they can to aid themselves. It justifies their relatively high RRP compared to Ford, Alfa, Renault etc "yes this Golf is £5k more than the equivalent Renault, but it will be worth £5k more when you trade it in, so it's not really costing you any extra". Also helps dealerships to maximise profits on the nearly new cars too.

Dealership prices dictate CAP/Glass' prices. My dealer showed me a bulletin from VW when I was picking up my last car. He'd given me an amazing p/x price for my 1st Scirocco: £17k for a 2 year old 2.0TDI GT that had only cost me £21k. But between point of ordering and pick-up, a VW bulletin had ordered a 7%  drop in the forecourt prices of the used Scirocco as the gap between them and their direct competition was opening up too far for the market to stomach. My p/x price was fixed, but it meant they had it up on there forecout for just a grand more than i'd had in p/x.