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Offline ChrisJL

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Re: GTD build dates (estimated or confirmed)
« Reply #370 on: 28 August 2013, 00:39 »
How ironic - the GTD I cancelled back in June now has a confirmed build week of 15/09/13 :rolleyes:

Feels weird snooping on somebody else's car :evil:

FFS ! - Ordered mine in May and still no build date !

Do they put order numbers in a hat and draw them?

Is that a sign of the demand for the GTD perhaps  :sad:? I ordered same day as you but a GTI...
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Re: GTD build dates (estimated or confirmed)
« Reply #371 on: 28 August 2013, 07:51 »
Gtd has outstripped gti orders massively due to low emissions etc. company car drivers dream or so I was told  :wink:
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Re: GTD build dates (estimated or confirmed)
« Reply #372 on: 28 August 2013, 08:07 »
Yeah it seems pretty clear to me that GTD is vastly outselling the GTI, which is good as it makes mine just a little bit more special  :grin:
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Re: GTD build dates (estimated or confirmed)
« Reply #373 on: 28 August 2013, 08:14 »
Yeah it seems pretty clear to me that GTD is vastly outselling the GTI, which is good as it makes mine just a little bit more special  :grin:

VW are making us all feel special by making us wait a ridiculous length of time for our cars. Feel like I could've had an Audi R8 V10 quicker.

I wouldn't say vastly outselling - it's about 5:2, and less discount offered as a result.
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Re: GTD build dates (estimated or confirmed)
« Reply #374 on: 28 August 2013, 08:19 »
VW are making us all feel special by making us wait a ridiculous length of time for our cars. Feel like I could've had an Audi R8 V10 quicker.

I wouldn't say vastly outselling - it's about 5:2, and less discount offered as a result.

Haha, as much as I'd love an Audi R8 V10, I don't think they could discount it enough for me!  :grin:  Still, the old marketing trick of high price and throttling production does give the GTI/GTD a slightly more exclusive feel, warranted or not!
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Re: GTD build dates (estimated or confirmed)
« Reply #375 on: 28 August 2013, 08:23 »
VW are making us all feel special by making us wait a ridiculous length of time for our cars. Feel like I could've had an Audi R8 V10 quicker.

I wouldn't say vastly outselling - it's about 5:2, and less discount offered as a result.

Haha, as much as I'd love an Audi R8 V10, I don't think they could discount it enough for me!  :grin:  Still, the old marketing trick of high price and throttling production does give the GTI/GTD a slightly more exclusive feel, warranted or not!

The GTI and GTD drivers will have a whole new image. People will take note that you're in a GTI or GTD and say "damn, he must have the patience of a saint!" - not quite the image most buyers were looking for.
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Re: GTD build dates (estimated or confirmed)
« Reply #376 on: 28 August 2013, 08:41 »
The GTI and GTD drivers will have a whole new image. People will take note that you're in a GTI or GTD and say "damn, he must have the patience of a saint!" - not quite the image most buyers were looking for.

I nearly posted something similar to what I'm going to say here in another thread that's just talking about how understated the car is.  Of course I do care about how a car looks, the performance and the level of kit, otherwise I wouldn't have bought one in the first place.  But, the reality is, I bought a Mk7 for myself to enjoy - any image somebody has as a result of me owning one, good or bad, is immaterial.
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Re: GTD build dates (estimated or confirmed)
« Reply #377 on: 28 August 2013, 09:30 »
Yeah it seems pretty clear to me that GTD is vastly outselling the GTI, which is good as it makes mine just a little bit more special  :grin:

VW are making us all feel special by making us wait a ridiculous length of time for our cars. Feel like I could've had an Audi R8 V10 quicker.

I wouldn't say vastly outselling - it's about 5:2, and less discount offered as a result.
When you take into account private and lease sales its vastly outselling the GTI.
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Re: GTD build dates (estimated or confirmed)
« Reply #378 on: 28 August 2013, 10:17 »
GTI: being vastly outsold by the GTD….does that make it less desirable or more exclusive, or a bit of both? Either car will please their owners when they finally arrive!
If I’d have been able to get £3k off a GTI and the same p/x price for my Scirocco vs £800 of freebies and a very good part-ex price, I might have been slightly tempted towards a GTI.
Slightly lower residuals and 3 years of higher fuel economy might have been almost mitigated with a deal for a GTI which would in effect be £2200 better than the deal I got. GTD loses around £1500 less (over 3 years on average mileage, using GFV figures) and will probably cost the average 10k miler an extra £500 a year to fuel a 40mpg Golf than a 60mpg GTD.
It was never a consideration when I first put pen to paper because I didn’t anticipate generous discounts being possible on the GTI less than a month after I ordered my GTD. GTD discounts have been low and hard to find (especially without a raft of optional extras, which I don’t want), so I don’t feel particularly short changed on my GTD deal, especially given the equity that has opened up with my p/x due to the wait. I’m glad I stuck with the GTD, but not by a huge margin – fuelling on a weekly basis would have blunted my enthusiasm for the GTI a little because it’s that money you notice being spent, the money you saved up front on the purchase price is always at the back of your mind.
I think in the end I am just about better off with the GTD. I drive my Scirocco 170TDI quite hard to get up to speed and enjoy the use of torque in gear with very little fuel penalty – I would probably be driving the GTI with a far lighter right foot to save fuel, making a GTI in my hands slower and less fun than a GTD in my hands. Someone else may hardly consider fuel costs at all and will have a hoot hammering the GTI.
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Re: GTD build dates (estimated or confirmed)
« Reply #379 on: 28 August 2013, 10:29 »
Pretty much bang on there monkeyhanger.  No matter what the owner buys, they will be happy with it, period, because it is right for them.  How much financially better off you actually are with one over the other will vary greatly depending how long you keep it, how many miles you do, how you drive the thing etc.  I did the maths on a spreadsheet and yeah, if I forget relative depreciation because I plan on keeping it, the extra per year in fuel and tax for the GTI was an insignificant few hundred quid a year.  Insignificant in that it equates to just over one monthly payment of my three year loan for the car, which will be paid off either on or before the end of the term.

I also have a GTI right now so the fuel costs are going to be lower, if not by much.  On the whole I don't go caning it around, and accelerate quite gently most of the time.  I prefer the GTI, being blunt, for its red accents!  I also prefer driving a smooth petrol engine, although I grant you that modern diesels are very, very good.  For me though, it's not about outright acceleration, top end and torque, or indeed economy.

As for exclusivity, I'm obviously biased but can see both sides of the coin.  In a way it makes it more exclusive because there are less of them on the roads.  I guess in terms of desirability, you can look at it two ways as well - either it's not what people want these days, or they do, but just want obvious lower running costs, as significant/insignificant as they might be.
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