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Offline Movi

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Re: Dissapointing GTD Reviews
« Reply #10 on: 14 June 2013, 22:23 »
I think the GTD reviews have been positive. if your disappointed with what you've read then the GTD is not for you.

It really depends on what you want your car to do.

Everyones requirements are different and it depends what you want your car to do for you.

for me neither the GTI or GTD are going to excite me. I sold my seriously tuned ED30 and bought a Nissan GTR back in 2009 in the quest for more power. and yes it was a rocket ship but I never got a sense of excitement or adrenaline I get from riding a motorbike. The build quality was pretty nasty and the running costs where shocking. I got rid after only 7 months and bought a new Triumph Speed Triple and a Golf GTD and have never been happier. I just don't get the feeling of being at one with the machine with any car as I do on a fast motorbike.

I'm just after a new car that appeals to me that can do big miles in as much comfort as possible.
it needs to look the part, have a quality interior and have a bit of get up and go and not cost the earth to run. The MK6 GTD I own now does all of those things. The new one is lighter, faster, better equipped and costs less to run.

I myself did way up the cost of the GTI v GTD as my daily transport and for me the GTI works out approx. £160 more a month due to lower running costs and better future value for the GTD.

for me thats £160 a month I would rather spend towards my new purchase. A New BMW 1000 HP4 Cant wait  :evil:

If your toying with a basic spec GTD v GTI as your do it all motor and your not doing more than 10k miles a year and you want the best all rounder on the market today I would go for a basic spec GTI if the piggy bank allows.



 
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Re: Dissapointing GTD Reviews
« Reply #11 on: 14 June 2013, 22:53 »
My Heart says GTI and my head the GTD. But in real world running costs the GTD probably makes the most sense. The reviewers never seam concerned with fuel economy, perhaps only when doing a long term test do you get a true reflection of what a car is like to live with in everyday life.

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Re: Dissapointing GTD Reviews
« Reply #12 on: 14 June 2013, 22:59 »
My Heart says GTI and my head the GTD. But in real world running costs the GTD probably makes the most sense. The reviewers never seam concerned with fuel economy, perhaps only when doing a long term test do you get a true reflection of what a car is like to live with in everyday life.

I'm sure you would be more than happy with either model.

What are you driving now?

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Re: Dissapointing GTD Reviews
« Reply #13 on: 14 June 2013, 23:04 »
My Heart says GTI and my head the GTD. But in real world running costs the GTD probably makes the most sense. The reviewers never seam concerned with fuel economy, perhaps only when doing a long term test do you get a true reflection of what a car is like to live with in everyday life.

If you feel you could afford the GTI then imo that's what you should go for. You don't want to have any doubts/regrets that you made the wrong decision because after all it will live with you for 3-4 years depending on how long you keep your cars for.

On this occasion I would let your heart rule your head  :smiley: :smiley:



 

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Re: Dissapointing GTD Reviews
« Reply #14 on: 14 June 2013, 23:08 »
Just love this from the Scotsman review : "The Golf GTD’s appeal operates at a higher cerebral level, and rewards drivers who recognise that you don’t need to mash the throttle to maintain a rapid pace and put a smile on your face. In other words, the GTD is a GTI for grown-ups"

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Re: Dissapointing GTD Reviews
« Reply #15 on: 14 June 2013, 23:11 »
Corrected  :grin:

Just love this from the Scotsman review : "The Golf GTD’s appeal operates at a higher cerebral level, and rewards drivers who recognise that you don’t need to mash the throttle to maintain a rapid pace and put a smile on your face. In other words, the GTD is a GTI for old gits"

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Re: Dissapointing GTD Reviews
« Reply #16 on: 14 June 2013, 23:46 »
I'd ignore the reviews.  Firstly virtually all of them seem to be 90% word for word copies of the VW press material, complete with mistakes on the options.

Secondly, 9/10 of these reviewers are as dumb as the idiot kids hanging around and posting crap about how they'd never touch a GTI or GTD with a barge pole because its underpowered, boring and overpriced, while secretly wishing they had the money to buy one!  Apparently the only thing you need to judge a car on is the 162kw figure and the price tag.  Go figure.

Anyway, I digress.  The GTD is a superb car that no one in the world should be disappointed with.  Can't think of another vehicle offering the same performance and efficiency at this price, and on that measure you could even be prouder as a GTD owner than I could be as a GTI owner.

Ignore the reviews, they're (mostly) written by people whose only skill required for the job is to string a few words together, not an engineering degree.  They probably only drove the car for an hour, or maybe not at all.  These two elements do not qualify them for making a judgement about owning it.  Just saying.

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Re: Dissapointing GTD Reviews
« Reply #17 on: 15 June 2013, 00:02 »
Just love this from the Scotsman review : "The Golf GTD’s appeal operates at a higher cerebral level, and rewards drivers who recognise that you don’t need to mash the throttle to maintain a rapid pace and put a smile on your face. In other words, the GTD is a GTI for grown-ups"

I actually couldn't disagree with The Scotsman more to be honest. It has nothing to do with being cerebral and more to do with common sense. The GTI is the performance car out of the two. If you don't do a high mileage or do lots of short journeys then the GTI is the one. Let's not overthink this please. The Scotsman is just trying to be clever and in doing so has scored a fail. Say it like it is if you must, not like how you imagine it might be.  :rolleyes:
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Re: Dissapointing GTD Reviews
« Reply #18 on: 15 June 2013, 00:04 »
I'd ignore the reviews.  Firstly virtually all of them seem to be 90% word for word copies of the VW press material, complete with mistakes on the options.

Secondly, 9/10 of these reviewers are as dumb as the idiot kids hanging around and posting crap about how they'd never touch a GTI or GTD with a barge pole because its underpowered, boring and overpriced, while secretly wishing they had the money to buy one!  Apparently the only thing you need to judge a car on is the 162kw figure and the price tag.  Go figure.

Anyway, I digress.  The GTD is a superb car that no one in the world should be disappointed with.  Can't think of another vehicle offering the same performance and efficiency at this price, and on that measure you could even be prouder as a GTD owner than I could be as a GTI owner.

Ignore the reviews, they're (mostly) written by people whose only skill required for the job is to string a few words together, not an engineering degree.  They probably only drove the car for an hour, or maybe not at all.  These two elements do not qualify them for making a judgement about owning it.  Just saying.

Well said that man!
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Most reviews are just regurgitated rubbish by people too idle to actually review the car themselves.
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Re: Dissapointing GTD Reviews
« Reply #19 on: 15 June 2013, 08:55 »
It did make me laugh when I saw the Scotsman reviewer summisation that all petrol drivers are boy racers and idiots.

As for the OP, you've got to take into perspective what you are driving now. If you are used to Diesels, you are going to be blown away on the performance unless you are coming from a BMW 125D or a 3.0TDI Audi. On the build quality and interior front, you are going to be impressed unless you're coming from a BMW 5 series (or higher), an S-Class Mercedes or any Audi.

If you are coming from a petrol with 200PS+ to your GTD then you might feel like it is a downgrade. Through the gears the GTD won't feel noticeably slower than the GTI if you know TDIs well and when to change up and down optimally. Off the line it will, but unless you're a boy racer you won't feel robbed by the 0.6s difference in 0-62mph. Someone without much diesel experience who's coming from a petrol and jumps into a GTD (or any other higher end TDI) might feel it is very slow if they cock up the gear changes - the 2 cars drive quite differently to get the best out of them.

As for the financial differences, only you can decide what you'd rather be doing with your money. I could afford to run a GTI, but i'd be spending £100 a month extra, and i'd rather be spending that money on something else for the 10% loss in performance on paper and negligible performance loss when driving it within the confines of UK traffic laws (or just outside it).
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