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Re: Personal GTI reviews
« Reply #50 on: 04 June 2013, 10:54 »
I'm going to my dealer after work (Lookers Blackburn). They're GTI is going on the road today.

I'm not having a drive, it'd be pointless as i've ordered a GTD. I just want to check out the interior.
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Re: Personal GTI reviews
« Reply #51 on: 04 June 2013, 11:12 »
I'm not having a drive, it'd be pointless as i've ordered a GTD. I just want to check out the interior.

Not representative maybe, but certainly not pointless!  Unless deep-down the GTI is what you really wanted  :evil:
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Re: Personal GTI reviews
« Reply #52 on: 04 June 2013, 13:01 »
why they haven't personalized the dashboard more, ala TT/S3, ie have GTI written in the revs dashboard?? I really don't get that, they are selling a car that is supposed to be top/near top of their performance range so why not make it look a bit more special?? my only criticism.  other than that, love the car

Completely agree. It's the small touches that count. I have TT displayed in my speedo and it's a stylish wee feature

or at least offer it as an extra.  I wouldn't think it'd be too much of a hassle to insert the GTI logo on the speedo for those who'd be willing to pay a few extra quid
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Re: Personal GTI reviews
« Reply #53 on: 04 June 2013, 19:30 »
I'm going to my dealer after work (Lookers Blackburn). They're GTI is going on the road today.

I'm not having a drive, it'd be pointless as i've ordered a GTD. I just want to check out the interior.

Thanks for the heads up buddy.

Went and had a look after work, loved the interior and the Nav pro.

not to keen on the red or the 5 doors though

should look better when its dropped a bit. only pdi'd yesterday.

Those clocks don't look any better in the flesh :angry:
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Re: Personal GTI reviews
« Reply #54 on: 05 June 2013, 01:21 »
So I finally managed to grab a test drive in the new Golf GTi.

The car I test drove was a Tornado Red, standard 217bhp 5 door, fitted with a 'manual' box and bog standard 18" 'Austin' wheels wrapped in Dunlop Sport Maxx rubber (225/40 ZR18).  The only optional extra's added were Keyless Entry (£350) & Discover Pro Nav system (£1,725), both of which I could have done without.  Although the car had only been at the dealership for two weeks with 700 miles on the clock, there were plenty of scratches on the harder plastics in the interior…. it wasn't in the best of conditions to say the least!  What was really noticeable, was that there were lots of  deep scratches around the area where the normal ignition key slot would have been…. although the car was set-up for keyless entry, people had obviously forgotten and tried inserting the key into an imaginary hole.  It looks like even if you've opted for keyless entry you still get a key on the remote fob? (Probably as a safeguard or override function)

EXTERNAL APPEARANCE
The car itself looked good, but if I'm brutally honest slightly underwhelming, as a lot of people on here have already commented.  I can't really put my finger on why… I was under the impression it would look better in the flesh than in the pictures, but it didn't.  Maybe because it could have done with a clean and the flies covering the bonnet didn't exactly help matters.  I'm not sure the Tornado Red colour did it much favours as well.  I've owned a solid red coloured car in the past and absolutely loved the colour, but this just didn't seem to suit the GTi.  For some reason it didn't show off the lines as well, but then maybe in different lights its different.

The 18" 'Austin' wheels looked good and are a nice evolution of the old 18" Monza's, but still looked "slightly" under wheeled!  Shame they didn't offer that same 'axe-head' design as a 19" option because I do like them.

INTERIOR
The overall quality was again good, but not such as big leap as many reviewers have commented.  I had originally said that I liked the look of the fake carbon-fibre 'esque' trim, but in reality it looks a little cheap… maybe the high gloss finish had something to do with it?  Maybe it would have looked better with a matt finish or stuck with piano black?  Not sure.  Steering wheel looked & felt great.. nice width… not too chunky but not too thin either. I much prefer the look of the new steering wheel over the old however I still prefer the more sculptured feel of the Mk6 over the new.  Not a fan of the triangular small window in the A-pillar.. looks like a pain to clean.  Tartan seats looked great and reminds me of the original tartan found in the Mk1…. better looking & less fussy than in the Mk6.  One comment I would make is that although the thigh bolsters on the seat are more pronounced, they still don't grip you enough.  i understand that they have to cater for all sizes, but I personally would have preferred more support (but then I'm not a particularly large individual).

DRIVE
So to the drive itself…. and all I can say is it doesn't disappoint.  It does everything the old car did, but BETTER!!  Yes the steering feels detached, but you get that with any modern day electric steering. Performance wise its quick, but not stupidly so as to scare you witless!.  What was instantly noticeable (compared to the Mk6) was how much quicker it felt off the line…. You really do notice the extra 52lb/ft difference in torque. Theres no whiff of turbo lag whatsoever.  Also noticed a lovely exhaust note whilst I was standing on the forecourt waiting for the salesman to bring the car round… however the lovely exhaust note is not so apparent when you're sitting inside the vehicle itself.  Even on a hard charge the exhaust is very 'muted'… probably more so than the Mk6.

No problems with front end grip as well.  I took a high speed corner in 4th gear at 60mph which tightened on itself & there was no hint of understeer at all… I just kept my foot planted to the floor and it went round effortlessly (& this was without the clever e-diif, just the standard XDS).  Turn in was precise and accurate, however the damping was "slightly' on the firm side (more so than my Mk6) which was a bit of a surprise.  Drove over few expansion joints in the road that sent a noticeable thud and vibration through the cabin.  Not sure why this would be? Maybe the tyres were over inflated or something? There wasn't such a 'huge' difference between Comfort, Normal & Sport mode in terms of throttle response & steering input, however there was a 'subtle' difference.  I kept changing the settings whilst driving, but it wasn't always apparent which mode I was in.  Much preferred driving in 'Sport' mode though as the steering did feel more weighted (would have loved to have tried a demo with the DCC to see if this made much more difference to the handling). 

There was one gripe though, and it could have been down to me but for some strange reason I couldn't get a smooth shift from first into second gear.  I tried adjusting the throttle and then the clutch on numerous occasions, but every time I got a horrible drivetrain shunt changing up?  Weird… Probably me. Probably just need to change my driving style or the car needs to be run in more?

VERDICT
So what was my overall impression?  Theres no question it's 'Good'…. in fact VERY "Good", which was pretty much what I expected.

However those of you coming from a Mk6 may feel "slightly' underwhelmed (like myself), as its pretty much business as usual (albeit with a few subtle changes here & there).  However those of you who are coming over from other marques will probably be "deeply" impressed as its a stunning piece of machinery and probably the best 'all-round' hot hatch on the market at the present moment.

















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Re: Personal GTI reviews
« Reply #55 on: 05 June 2013, 07:54 »
Thanks for the review. PS I think it looks stunning in red so thanks for the pictures too!
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Re: Personal GTI reviews
« Reply #56 on: 05 June 2013, 08:26 »
Anyone expecting a revolutionary change from MK6 GTI to MK7 is going to be underwhelmed. 5% gain in output isn't going to set the world alight. In a car that was good anyway, how do they improve on that in a significant way? Biggest gains for MK7 are in significant fuel economy improvements and equipment, nothing beyond that. Good, long detailed review though. Puts me off ever buying an ex demo if this one is covered in internal scratches after just 700 miles of use.

I'm only expecting the benefit of 9% more power, better economy and Xenons as the really noticeable gains of GTD ownership over my Roc. I already have the benefits of XDS on mine, but don't generally feel the system working unless you're really flinging the car around the bends at speed.

I felt the new steering wheel rim wasn't quite fat enough on the MK7, it doesn't feel as sporty when it is less chunky in the hand, and i'm really not a fan of the tiny A-pillar windows, they seem utterly pointless as they're useless for looking out of and mess up the side profile of the car. I'm keeping my expectations firmly on the ground, and as a result i'm not climbing the walls waiting for the new one. Coming from a good car to another good car means it's more "meh" than wow". Someone coming a lesser car will most likely be far more impressed with their new one than me, but I will miss the Scirocco's looks most of all, otherwise it pretty much drives like a MK6 GTD.


As time ticks on I am getting less and less enthusiastic about my forthcoming GTD as I come to realise it's not a huge jump over what I already have.
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Re: Personal GTI reviews
« Reply #57 on: 05 June 2013, 08:42 »
I'm going to my dealer after work (Lookers Blackburn). They're GTI is going on the road today.

I'm not having a drive, it'd be pointless as i've ordered a GTD. I just want to check out the interior.

Thanks for the heads up buddy.

Went and had a look after work, loved the interior and the Nav pro.

not to keen on the red or the 5 doors though

should look better when its dropped a bit. only pdi'd yesterday.

Those clocks don't look any better in the flesh :angry:

I didn't end up going in the end! I work in Haslingden so the drive over there at rush hour is a bit long in the tooth. And I could hear my Barbecue screaming 'USEEE MEEEE!!!!'.

Hopefully will get down there today!
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Re: Personal GTI reviews
« Reply #58 on: 05 June 2013, 09:09 »
Anyone expecting a revolutionary change from MK6 GTI to MK7 is going to be underwhelmed. 5% gain in output isn't going to set the world alight. In a car that was good anyway, how do they improve on that in a significant way? Biggest gains for MK7 are in significant fuel economy improvements and equipment, nothing beyond that. Good, long detailed review though. Puts me off ever buying an ex demo if this one is covered in internal scratches after just 700 miles of use.

You've hit the nail on the head!!! The Mk6 is such a great car already, it was always difficult to improve upon. I think if you were upsizing from say a smaller hot hatch eg Mini Cooper, then you would be utterly blown away. But for me it lacked the "Wow" factor in terms of a leap forward!!! But would it stop me buying one? No.... Because I love my Mk6 and the Mk7 has made the evolutionary changes in the right direction and made it even better!!
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Re: Personal GTI reviews
« Reply #59 on: 05 June 2013, 09:25 »
Anyone expecting a revolutionary change from MK6 GTI to MK7 is going to be underwhelmed. 5% gain in output isn't going to set the world alight. In a car that was good anyway, how do they improve on that in a significant way? Biggest gains for MK7 are in significant fuel economy improvements and equipment, nothing beyond that. Good, long detailed review though. Puts me off ever buying an ex demo if this one is covered in internal scratches after just 700 miles of use.

You've hit the nail on the head!!! The Mk6 is such a great car already, it was always difficult to improve upon. I think if you were upsizing from say a smaller hot hatch eg Mini Cooper, then you would be utterly blown away. But for me it lacked the "Wow" factor in terms of a leap forward!!! But would it stop me buying one? No.... Because I love my Mk6 and the Mk7 has made the evolutionary changes in the right direction and made it even better!!

It also makes the wait for me less anxious.
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