Woolwich Terror Attack.....

[VW BUSH]

You misunderstood. I'm not talking about 1 person going in and tackling them single handed because that would just be stupid. Its the whole swarm of people there who could have easily worked together and ended it prematurely and i would have been well up for joining in.

And also while our country is still dropping bombs on other countries causing unnecessary suffering this will never stop happening. We can't have it both ways.

That's utter dross too! You cannot justify taking a person's life because of something beyond their control! These two animals have probably never even been to a country of Muslim origin!
It doesn't make it OK because it's happening somewhere else ffs. It's not like bombs are intentionally being dropped on random public places or even legitimate military compounds! It's a war on terrorists, who are intent on doing things like this, to people like you!

Don't start ranting at me please, its not nice. I'm not justifying it...or talking about individual cases. I'm just saying. Lots of people, hundreds of thousands of civilians have died in the middle east as a direct result of our and the US invasion.

In lands where everyone is fighting each other it does not take much to find a common enemy

[Seanl]

You're obviously uneducated on the fact, and I'm not ranting. I'm pointing out that your views and figures are inaccurate. No western country in recent history has ever gone out with the express intention of harming the innocent public. Its a sad fact that accidents do happen, but hundreds of thousands! Get real! These extemists don't just single out the military do they. Or have you forgotten how many people died on 9/11 and 7/7! You need to remember that those affected were people just like you, or your loved ones. I'm sure you'd have different views if someone you knew personally was affected by an atrocity like this!

[davemk4]

 

Most people refuse to help as they don't want to get involved. look at when motorcyclists come off, I've seen people start beeping because he is taking too long to get up and get traffic flowing regardless if he has come off on his own accord or other reasons and may have broken a bone(s) or any other serious injuries. What about when fights or muggings occur in broad daylight with witnesses, its very rare for people to get involved. Even when police put signs out requesting for witnesses most people who are key witnesses do not come forward, in some cases not any witnesses Same when cars break down etc...

So its no real surprise, people see no need to get involved and usually have an excuse, like "that person should of had break down cover" or "if he was getting mugged he should of called the police", when really ringing the police could of ended up with muggers seriously hurting the subject in question.

Then you get people who are worried of getting hurt, look a few months back to inner London crown court, a man got stabbed just before he entered the court doors by a big group due to being a witness against the gang or a group of a few members.

Then you get the other public opinion of why bother? That person won't get anything. I was attacked randomly once, stood my ground, got the persons details from his vehicle and suffered permanent nerve damage in my hand, you could tell he was also well over the limit, ontop of this he claimed to be a police officer. Police traced him down 4days later as he was using a friend's/relative's car, the drink driving they couldn't proove, they refused to come out on the time of the incident as they did not see it being urgent. By the time they found him they had no evidence of drink charges, followed by all they could do was make an arrest, issue a warning and force him to write the most lamest unsympathetic letter addressed to me.

So no surprise. But when you get caught of doing 32 in a 30 zone and end up with 3points and a fine because the police wanted to enforce the limit your blood boils as you have always been a good law abiding citizen when all the above happens, imagine what kind of public opinion people end up with?

couldnt agree more. it the not the case of people not wanting to help alot is down to risk of injury to self repercussions etc, what point police wont do out etc

[davemk4]

statement awful to watch 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22654220

[Gti_Jamo]

You're obviously uneducated on the fact, and I'm not ranting. I'm pointing out that your views and figures are inaccurate. No western country in recent history has ever gone out with the express intention of harming the innocent public. Its a sad fact that accidents do happen, but hundreds of thousands! Get real! These extemists don't just single out the military do they. Or have you forgotten how many people died on 9/11 and 7/7! You need to remember that those affected were people just like you, or your loved ones. I'm sure you'd have different views if someone you knew personally was affected by an atrocity like this!

Please, do some research on the figures. I'm not saying that in a bad way, just have a wee look if you can. Of course governments who fight wars don't keep body counts but other institutions do based on military reports and various other sources. Its excessive by the looks of it. I'm not uneducated, and do care very much for the safety of all the good people in this world regardless of race, religion etc and spend a fair bit of time keeping tabs on this kind of information. It matters. This war on terror is striving for security and peace, apparently, but yet is disrupting so many innocent people lives for the cause. They have loved ones too. They then look to seek revenge, creating more terrorists, and it goes on and on and on. I don't live in fear, worrying about what may happen in the future, but rather whats happening now. I don't really want to reply back so we'll let it get back on topic.

statement awful to watch 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22654220

Really Sad.

[VR6Lee]

You misunderstood. I'm not talking about 1 person going in and tackling them single handed because that would just be stupid. Its the whole swarm of people there who could have easily worked together and ended it prematurely and i would have been well up for joining in.

And also while our country is still dropping bombs on other countries causing unnecessary suffering this will never stop happening. We can't have it both ways.

That's utter dross too! You cannot justify taking a person's life because of something beyond their control! These two animals have probably never even been to a country of Muslim origin!
It doesn't make it OK because it's happening somewhere else ffs. It's not like bombs are intentionally being dropped on random public places or even legitimate military compounds! It's a war on terrorists, who are intent on doing things like this, to people like you!

Don't start ranting at me please, its not nice. I'm not justifying it...or talking about individual cases. I'm just saying. Lots of people, hundreds of thousands of civilians have died in the middle east as a direct result of our and the US invasion.

FFS UK Do Gooders fu<k your country up!  

[AudiA8Quattro]

Are we fighting terrorists in the Middle East or fighting for oil?

[golf-sib]

Fighting to lower human population as we are growing at a quick rate "like a virus with shoes - bill hicks"

[scarr89]

Are we fighting terrorists in the Middle East or fighting for oil?

Bit of both...Maybe.

[VR6Lee]

Police charging the EDL then foiled by a foot high hedge