Woolwich Terror Attack.....

[DubFan]

Why are we paying to save there lives when they ended someone else so painfully ?

Because we have a justice system and they can't be punished if they are dead.

I live 2 miles from where this happened. Woolwich itself has a bad reputation, but it's not representative of the area.

This attack was down to two individual extremists, they used Islam as part of their justification, but they don't represent the religion as a whole, just like the KKK don't represent Christians.
The 2 guys were bent on making a point, hence why they wanted to be filmed and waited for Police.
Blaming immigation is just the EDL's stock response. They might have been of Nigerian descent, but the guy on film had a London accent, so he had clearly been brought up here.

It's a horrific tragedy, but the EDL need to calm down. Going about wearing masks, throwing bottles and causing trouble does not help anyone and certainly won't help the Police do their job.

[scarr89]

I hope the EDL are there thugs don't take away from the horrific crime which was committed.

This highlights a terror & extremist threat, not a immigration policy threat; no matter however debatable that policy may be.

[VW BUSH]

Why are we paying to save there lives when they ended someone else so painfully ?

Because we have a justice system and they can't be punished if they are dead.

I live 2 miles from where this happened. Woolwich itself has a bad reputation, but it's not representative of the area.

This attack was down to two individual extremists, they used Islam as part of their justification, but they don't represent the religion as a whole, just like the KKK don't represent Christians.
The 2 guys were bent on making a point, hence why they wanted to be filmed and waited for Police.
Blaming immigation is just the EDL's stock response. They might have been of Nigerian descent, but the guy on film had a London accent, so he had clearly been brought up here.

It's a horrific tragedy, but the EDL need to calm down. Going about wearing masks, throwing bottles and causing trouble does not help anyone and certainly won't help the Police do their job.

EDL are dicks and half as clever.
As said that guy had a london/southern accent so was brought up here and most likely radicalised in one of the many back street Mosques and Islamic centres we have here in london.
Born and brought up in south London so I can say that the influx of too many migrants in too small a space and time will breed this hatred on both sides for many years to come, the minority whites become bitter and the majority ethnic do not respect or adopt british custom and rebel, history repeating itself again and as always worse every cycle it repeats dragging down people and area's alike.
Too many people and too many with different opinions and beliefs, no money, no prospects.

Labour, Tory, Ukip, Libs, all have avoided saying what most of us know because it is not PC but statisticly the more Muslims you have crammed into the estates and country the more chance of extremists within their ranks. To bleet on about sorting out immigration now is just because public opinion has leaned towards it due to this sort of thing and the step change in our local area's and culture.
This should have been tackled after all the problems in the 70's and 80's but most wont touch anything that involves risking being called a racist. Instead the MP's pretend from their big houses with duck ponds that we are a melting pot of culture, they dont see the lack of emulsion as we try to mix thousands of people in deprived areas and only succeed in making Ghetto comunities of folk who have English as a poor second language with no feeling of being English or British.
Combine this with our dubious foriegn policy you have a tinder box in your hands.



This is the future of terrorism, armed attacks are what the forces are training for. we should be thankful guns and ammo are hard to come by in this country......

[golf-sib]

Why are we paying to save there lives when they ended someone else so painfully ?

Because we have a justice system and they can't be punished if they are dead.

I live 2 miles from where this happened. Woolwich itself has a bad reputation, but it's not representative of the area.

This attack was down to two individual extremists, they used Islam as part of their justification, but they don't represent the religion as a whole, just like the KKK don't represent Christians.
The 2 guys were bent on making a point, hence why they wanted to be filmed and waited for Police.
Blaming immigation is just the EDL's stock response. They might have been of Nigerian descent, but the guy on film had a London accent, so he had clearly been brought up here.

It's a horrific tragedy, but the EDL need to calm down. Going about wearing masks, throwing bottles and causing trouble does not help anyone and certainly won't help the Police do their job.

EDL are dicks and half as clever.
As said that guy had a london/southern accent so was brought up here and most likely radicalised in one of the many back street Mosques and Islamic centres we have here in london.
Born and brought up in south London so I can say that the influx of too many migrants in too small a space and time will breed this hatred on both sides for many years to come, the minority whites become bitter and the majority ethnic do not respect or adopt british custom and rebel, history repeating itself again and as always worse every cycle it repeats dragging down people and area's alike.
Too many people and too many with different opinions and beliefs, no money, no prospects.

Labour, Tory, Ukip, Libs, all have avoided saying what most of us know because it is not PC but statisticly the more Muslims you have crammed into the estates and country the more chance of extremists within their ranks. To bleet on about sorting out immigration now is just because public opinion has leaned towards it due to this sort of thing and the step change in our local area's and culture.
This should have been tackled after all the problems in the 70's and 80's but most wont touch anything that involves risking being called a racist. Instead the MP's pretend from their big houses with duck ponds that we are a melting pot of culture, they dont see the lack of emulsion as we try to mix thousands of people in deprived areas and only succeed in making Ghetto comunities of folk who have English as a poor second language with no feeling of being English or British.
Combine this with our dubious foriegn policy you have a tinder box in your hands.



This is the future of terrorism, armed attacks are what the forces are training for. we should be thankful guns and ammo are hard to come by in this country......

Completely agree with G W Bush, I grew up in SE London, and got out when I could as the population of the mix ethics grew into the same area that never expanded. Problems arose more and more drastically, from hate preachers setting up on a field with a sound system you could hear over a mile away in the concrete jungle called thamesmead, to an increase in racial crimes which just fuelled more anger, more hate and more problems. Creating a bigger gap in communities.

It will only continue growing this problem as Greater London is growing at a rapid rate, but technology as much as it helps the greater good it also serves as a mean of creating more crimes, the UK is at the moment heavily concerned about 3D printers with ability to be able to print a gun to any one, affordably, in the next two decades being a high probability to a nation where firearms are reasonably hard to get hold of.

[Mr Blue]

my impression is it was pre planned, just the victim was random, the car was full of weapons, they hit and ran the guy over, only to come out and finish him by beheading with knives/cleavers,

Thought the same.

[simonpolly]

Putin’s Speech on 4 February, 2013
 This is one time our elected leaders should pay attention to the advice of Vladimir Putin....how scary is that?
 On February 4th, 2013, Vladimir Putin, the Russian president, addressed the Duma, (Russian Parliament), and gave a speech about the tensions with minorities in Russia:
 "In Russia live Russians. Any minority, from anywhere, if it wants to live in Russia, to work and eat in Russia, should speak Russian, and should respect the Russian laws. If they prefer Sharia Law, then we advise them to go to those places where that's the state law. Russia does not need minorities. Minorities need Russia, and we will not grant them special privileges, or try to change our laws to fit their desires, no matter how loud they yell 'discrimination'. We better learn from the suicides of America, England, Holland and France, if we are to survive as a nation.
 The Russian customs and traditions are not compatible with the lack of culture or the primitive ways of most minorities. When this honorable legislative body thinks of creating new laws, it should have in mind the national interest first, observing that the minorities are not Russians.”

 The Russian politicians in the Duma gave Putin a five minute standing ovation.

[golf-sib]

Russia is a different story all together with many other problems and a very different mind set of the general population. I could talk about it but rather not get into it as threads like this usually start to spiral out of control.

[Gti_Jamo]

 

[Egbutt Wash]

If I was a crazed Islamist out to make a point I would not use a Vauxhall Tigra.

[barrym381]

If I was a crazed Islamist out to make a point I would not use a Vauxhall Tigra.

think the choice of car is the last thing these 2 cockroaches thought of tbh