GTI/GTD Order Date vs. Build Week Analysis

[monkeyhanger]

Just seeing Chriscav's post above I wonder whether it's worth mentioning whether a broker is used. Using a broker might push you back down the queue a little if the supplying dealership is hammering their allocation because of heavily discounted orders. On second thoughts it might be too difficult a variable to consider and maybe when you placed the order is a better gauge of where you might be in a particular dealership's allocation queue. 

[Bill_the_Bear]

Guys,

I've pulled all the responses so far but sadly out of 31 entries only 2 actually have a confirmed build week.  I know there should be a lot more of us than that!

I can run the analysis on the estimated week but as we've previously discussed its not likely to be very accurate.  Any thoughts?

[monkeyhanger]

Bill the bear: Depends on the source of "estimated". I consider my conversation with dealer and VW UK only an estimated date. Until they can categorically say "it's getting built next week" I don't consider it confirmed. Quoted week 26 for me is still only a provisional week as far as VW UK are confirmed, although they admit that it should only be brought forward at this point if it moves at all.

Still, an "estimated" date for an order that's come from the dealer's mouth which hasn't been amended in the meantime is probably as "definite" as you can get right now.

Based on estimated dates, are you seeing anything like no-one with ACC or sunroof getting a car made before week 32 etc? I think I may be amongst the earliest BW for a GTD from my recollection of other postings.

[Bill_the_Bear]

Bill the bear: Depends on the source of "estimated". I consider my conversation with dealer and VW UK only an estimated date. Until they can categorically say "it's getting built next week" I don't consider it confirmed. Quoted week 26 for me is still only a provisional week as far as VW UK are confirmed, although they admit that it should only be brought forward at this point if it moves at all.

Still, an "estimated" date for an order that's come from the dealer's mouth which hasn't been amended in the meantime is probably as "definite" as you can get right now.

Based on estimated dates, are you seeing anything like no-one with ACC or sunroof getting a car made before week 32 etc? I think I may be amongst the earliest BW for a GTD from my recollection of other postings.

I get what you are saying.  However, at least four people who give me the entire order number have "BW confirmed" showing on the website, yet only one of them could give a confirmed BW in the survey.  Their dealers should be able to in these cases and from people who haven't responded yet or didn't give the full order number there must be even more than four!

I'm the only one who has ordered the sunroof and my order is "estimated" at BW37... by far the longest wait I think .  That is the only option so far which seems to cause a delay, but I need more data .

I don't really want to drop the sunroof on a chance it might bring my order forward a few months.  I don't really mind waiting in theory, but I'm not keen on the prospect of sitting here for another two months while everyone else is posting lovely pictures and driving past my office window in their shiny new cars!  I didn't expect to be the only one still not built by mid September.  I actually ordered earlier than most people who filled in the survey! haha

[monkeyhanger]

VW must be doing something with the "track my order" data - checked mine today and although it is still "processing your order", my colour change has kicked in, now showing Tornado Red against my details instead of Deep Black Pearl.

Just looked at my dad's order and his is in "build week confirmed" status, still showing Deep Black Pearl as colour (He ordered Tornado Red and made no changes). He'll be happy with getting free paint (he'd considered it when I was getting DBP but wasn't prepared to pay £500 for it) as he won't be paying for something he didn't order.

The info above suggests that my info from VW UK trumps what the dealer told me yesterday (when VW UK told me my dad's build week was 25 and mine was 26).

[Gung-Ho]

Bill the bear: Depends on the source of "estimated". I consider my conversation with dealer and VW UK only an estimated date. Until they can categorically say "it's getting built next week" I don't consider it confirmed. Quoted week 26 for me is still only a provisional week as far as VW UK are confirmed, although they admit that it should only be brought forward at this point if it moves at all.

Still, an "estimated" date for an order that's come from the dealer's mouth which hasn't been amended in the meantime is probably as "definite" as you can get right now.

Based on estimated dates, are you seeing anything like no-one with ACC or sunroof getting a car made before week 32 etc? I think I may be amongst the earliest BW for a GTD from my recollection of other postings.

I get what you are saying.  However, at least four people who give me the entire order number have "BW confirmed" showing on the website, yet only one of them could give a confirmed BW in the survey.  Their dealers should be able to in these cases and from people who haven't responded yet or didn't give the full order number there must be even more than four!

Still can't believe four guys already have "Confirmed"  build dates showing on the tracker & mine is still showing "Processing"... I must have been one of the earliest to place my order back in March when the order books first opened (29.03.13).

[monkeyhanger]

Still can't believe four guys already have "Confirmed"  build dates showing on the tracker & mine is still showing "Processing"... I must have been one of the earliest to place my order back in March when the order books first opened (29.03.13).

That'll be five with my dad's! Any order changes Gung-Ho? i'm convinced you get bumped down the queue with changes made. Mine isn't confirmed and will be a week after my dad's according to VW UK (but not according to the dealer  ), I changed my paint colour 2 weeks after ordering and my dad ordered 3 days after me but never made a change. Clearly no delay issues with DSG boxes.

[Bill_the_Bear]

Gung-Ho: My information says you are the second order ever placed (that we know about).  You were beaten to the post by one day.  The earliest order with BW confirmed on the tracker was placed a couple of days after you.  Not sure if that is good news or bad.

Interestingly the first two orders placed have slightly higher order numbers than orders placed in the next 2-3 days.  Perhaps it was a weekend or something and they were beaten to it when the system updated on Monday.  I'm speculating of course.

[monkeyhanger]

Gung-Ho: My information says you are the second order ever placed (that we know about).  You were beaten to the post by one day.  The earliest order with BW confirmed on the tracker was placed a couple of days after you.  Not sure if that is good news or bad.

Interestingly the first two orders placed have slightly higher order numbers than orders placed in the next 2-3 days.  Perhaps it was a weekend or something and they were beaten to it when the system updated on Monday.  I'm speculating of course.

Orders could be processed on the Saturday of the Easter weekend. My Good Friday order was processed and acknowledged the next day (with VW order number emailed back to me from my dealer) because unusually the admin staff were all in on the Saturday. I suspect that for most dealerships, a weekend order would have been processed on the Monday following the weekend (or Tuesday in the case of the Easter weekend).

[Gung-Ho]

Gung-Ho: My information says you are the second order ever placed (that we know about).  You were beaten to the post by one day.  The earliest order with BW confirmed on the tracker was placed a couple of days after you.  Not sure if that is good news or bad.

Interestingly the first two orders placed have slightly higher order numbers than orders placed in the next 2-3 days.  Perhaps it was a weekend or something and they were beaten to it when the system updated on Monday.  I'm speculating of course.

Orders could be processed on the Saturday of the Easter weekend. My Good Friday order was processed and acknowledged the next day (with VW order number emailed back to me from my dealer) because unusually the admin staff were all in on the Saturday. I suspect that for most dealerships, a weekend order would have been processed on the Monday following the weekend (or Tuesday in the case of the Easter weekend).

Yeah... I'm almost certain that's what happened. Because it was the BH weekend, my order was most likely placed the following Tuesday.

In answer to your first question... No... No changes were made to the original order. I would have thought it was pretty straightforward really. The only options were Performance Pack, DCC & 19" Santiago's.  It's not like I ordered day glo paint or alligator covered sports seats!!!