Mk4 faster than Mk3,2 and 1 (oh and Mk3 second fastest!)

[Thom89]

Without Mk1 and 2 bloodline the later cars would have paled into insignificance, if it were not for the "Golf" and "GTI" branding...
 If the starting point were the Mk3, would there really be events like GTI International, Wörthersee etc

Thom

you have a valid point. but the R`s have taken the Gti place.

This is my point, they are not "Golfs" any longer, they are just called Golfs! the essence that VW managed to capture in the 80s "GTI" was completely lost in translation when they gave us the Mk3... Its like comparing Mk1 and 2 Ford Escorts, to the FWD Mk3 Escort, a completely different car, with the same name. A Ford Focus has more in common with a Mk3 Escort than any of the others!
The fact that a Mk3 Golf is a "Volkswagen" is its redeeming feature...

Thom

[Gavv8]

For me the best will always be the mk1 simply because it re-defined motoring and created a class of car that people still aspire to now even if the brand itself has become diluted, the mk3 was of its time but in no way does it stand in the shadow of the mk2..not in my opinion.

[JC]

this man had an opinion too, he was wrong aswell 

[jamie16v]

6 pages now and we havent come to a conclusion...
So, who has the biggest willy?

[Gavv8]

this man had an opinion too, he was wrong aswell 

Blimey..he actually looks a bit like me!

[Gavv8]

6 pages now and we havent come to a conclusion...
So, who has the biggest willy?

Mk3 drivers do.....mk2 drivers just have the biggest knobs.

[jamie16v]

can you verify that?

[Metallix]

Golf   L   Engine   bhp per 1000kg
Mk4   3.2   24v           156.7
Mk3   2.8   12v           150.6
Mk2   1.8   8v G60       148.6
Mk4   2.8   24v           145.6
Mk4   1.8   20vT 180   139.6
Mk3   2.0   16v           134.7
Mk1   1.6   8v           133.3
Mk2   1.8   16v           132.3
Mk1   1.8   8v           130.4
Mk4   1.8   20vT 150   124.7
Mk2   1.8   8v           117.9
Mk3   2.0   8v           111.1

^ only a rough guide using
bhp vs weight, you can see:
the Mk3 16v isn't far behind the Mk4 1.8T 180
the Mk3 16v is ahead of the Mk4 1.8T 150
The Mk1 performs well due to being so light.

The article involves circuit driving so handling & braking come into play,
which means the bhp/weight figures are less important than with say a drag race.
They mention the vehicles are not well used examples & are not running the same tyres.
Doesn't sound like an equal playing field really.

So conclusion is that test was a load of b0llox.

[Thom89]

this man had an opinion too, he was wrong aswell 

Blimey..he actually looks a bit like me!

Well he would!
Holed or scuttled, its the same sh!t just a different day

Thom

[mrsaunders]

Without Mk1 and 2 bloodline the later cars would have paled into insignificance, if it were not for the "Golf" and "GTI" branding...
 If the starting point were the Mk3, would there really be events like GTI International, Wörthersee etc

Thom

yes there would, clearly a perfect car to carry the name, people hate for no reseon, this article proves its not as bad as people say,