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Re: So, why did we go go for the GTI over the 135i?
« Reply #80 on: 12 May 2013, 20:11 »
The £1500 vw ask for an automatic box makes it look expensive for people that need auto.

Need auto, or prefer?

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Re: So, why did we go go for the GTI over the 135i?
« Reply #81 on: 12 May 2013, 20:12 »
Sorry, im still not buying this that they are comparable in price. Forgetting any negotiated discounts the 3 door GTI vanilla is £25,845 book value. The 3 door 135 is advertised at £30,555. That's still nearly a price differential of £5k which is not insignificant.

Also, the GFV on the M135i is only the same as the GTI (even though the price is £5k higher).

It's less. On a 4yr pcp 10k miles pa the future value of the 135i was 11k. My GTD's is 15.9k
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Re: So, why did we go go for the GTI over the 135i?
« Reply #82 on: 12 May 2013, 20:22 »
Sorry, im still not buying this that they are comparable in price. Forgetting any negotiated discounts the 3 door GTI vanilla is £25,845 book value. The 3 door 135 is advertised at £30,555. That's still nearly a price differential of £5k which is not insignificant.

Also, the GFV on the M135i is only the same as the GTI (even though the price is £5k higher).

It's less. On a 4yr pcp 10k miles pa the future value of the 135i was 11k. My GTD's is 15.9k

Enough said. I'm guessing that the running costs over the time of ownership would be far greater as well, insurance, servicing, fue, tyre wearl etc. All in all, much more expensive

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Re: So, why did we go go for the GTI over the 135i?
« Reply #83 on: 12 May 2013, 20:27 »
Sorry, im still not buying this that they are comparable in price. Forgetting any negotiated discounts the 3 door GTI vanilla is £25,845 book value. The 3 door 135 is advertised at £30,555. That's still nearly a price differential of £5k which is not insignificant.

Also, the GFV on the M135i is only the same as the GTI (even though the price is £5k higher).

It's less. On a 4yr pcp 10k miles pa the future value of the 135i was 11k. My GTD's is 15.9k

Enough said. I'm guessing that the running costs over the time of ownership would be far greater as well, insurance, servicing, fue, tyre wearl etc. All in all, much more expensive

Maybe... depends how you drive it!

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Re: So, why did we go go for the GTI over the 135i?
« Reply #84 on: 12 May 2013, 20:31 »
Sorry, im still not buying this that they are comparable in price. Forgetting any negotiated discounts the 3 door GTI vanilla is £25,845 book value. The 3 door 135 is advertised at £30,555. That's still nearly a price differential of £5k which is not insignificant.

Also, the GFV on the M135i is only the same as the GTI (even though the price is £5k higher).

It's less. On a 4yr pcp 10k miles pa the future value of the 135i was 11k. My GTD's is 15.9k

Enough said. I'm guessing that the running costs over the time of ownership would be far greater as well, insurance, servicing, fue, tyre wearl etc. All in all, much more expensive

Maybe... depends how you drive it!

You only buy a car like the 135 to drive it in a particular way and that's not economically

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Re: So, why did we go go for the GTI over the 135i?
« Reply #85 on: 12 May 2013, 20:56 »
@Squit: Nice one. That car is a real rocket. Frightened me when I first drove it. Colour in and out? Did you not spec the Pro Nav? It's pretty awesome.
I managed a bit more ..... near 15%!

15%! Very impressive.

Should have realised that with 10% discount reached in about half an hour there was more available, but would have looked greedy having started the negotiation by saying that if they would do 10%, I would sign there and then.

Colour is Estoril Blue with black leather. Didn't spec any nav - I find the prices ridiculous when a very good Tom Tom or Garmin is £200 or less. Shame the GTI doesn't come with satnav as standard, that might have swayed me. Rather strange as well considering the lesser model GT does have it!

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Re: So, why did we go go for the GTI over the 135i?
« Reply #86 on: 12 May 2013, 21:01 »
Sorry, im still not buying this that they are comparable in price. Forgetting any negotiated discounts the 3 door GTI vanilla is £25,845 book value. The 3 door 135 is advertised at £30,555. That's still nearly a price differential of £5k which is not insignificant. 

Point taken.  I do largely agree with you, but if you take into account that the following come as standard on the M-lite:
1) Leather seats (Personally I'm not a big fan of leather seats & prefer the standard 'tartan' trim in the Golf, but if you were to opt for the leather trim it would set you back £1,675)
2) Ventilated M-Sports brakes all round. The only way to get these on the Golf is to opt for the Performance Pack @ £980
3) White paint.. A £200 option on the Golf (OK yes you could opt for either Black or Red at no extra cost but as you all know pure white is proving popular).

So that there alone totals £2,855. So if you offset that against the £30,555 base price of the M-lite that brings it down to £27,700 which isn't far off the base price of the VeeDub.
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Re: So, why did we go go for the GTI over the 135i?
« Reply #87 on: 12 May 2013, 21:10 »
Sorry, im still not buying this that they are comparable in price. Forgetting any negotiated discounts the 3 door GTI vanilla is £25,845 book value. The 3 door 135 is advertised at £30,555. That's still nearly a price differential of £5k which is not insignificant. 

Point taken.  I do largely agree with you, but if you take into account that the following come as standard on the M-lite:
1) Leather seats (Personally I'm not a big fan of leather seats & prefer the standard 'tartan' trim in the Golf, but if you were to opt for the leather trim it would set you back £1,675)
2) Ventilated M-Sports brakes all round. The only way to get these on the Golf is to opt for the Performance Pack @ £980
3) White paint.. A £200 option on the Golf (OK yes you could opt for either Black or Red at no extra cost but as you all know pure white is proving popular).

So that there alone totals £2,855. So if you offset that against the £30,555 base price of the M-lite that brings it down to £27,700 which isn't far off the base price of the VeeDub.

You're forgetting about the irrepairable damage the beemer is causing to your eyesight having to wake up to it each morning. Let's face it the beemer is not going to age well.

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Sorry Squit. This is purely my opinion as the looks just don't do anything for me although I accept it's a fantastic machine
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Re: So, why did we go go for the GTI over the 135i?
« Reply #88 on: 12 May 2013, 21:13 »
Hahahah :grin: Which is exactly why I've got a Golf on order...  :cool:
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Re: So, why did we go go for the GTI over the 135i?
« Reply #89 on: 12 May 2013, 22:26 »
Sorry, im still not buying this that they are comparable in price. Forgetting any negotiated discounts the 3 door GTI vanilla is £25,845 book value. The 3 door 135 is advertised at £30,555. That's still nearly a price differential of £5k which is not insignificant.

Also, the GFV on the M135i is only the same as the GTI (even though the price is £5k higher).

It's less. On a 4yr pcp 10k miles pa the future value of the 135i was 11k. My GTD's is 15.9k

In defense of the Beemer (never thought I would be saying that), you're quoting a 4 year GFV with a 3 year GTD GFV. How are you getting £15.9k? My vanilla GTD 5 door on 10k miles pa is approx £14.4k GFV, and the solutions example on VW website backs that up. You must have every extra going to gain £1500 on the GFV, as options have a very low effect on the GFV (no more than 20% value retained in most cases - even a DSG only adds about £300).
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