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Offline Jimble

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Re: DCC and ACC?
« Reply #50 on: 02 July 2013, 20:31 »
According to this page from the manual which was downloaded from another forum, it seems the mode button next to the gear stick is standard but if DCC is fitted then "comfort" becomes an option.





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Re: DCC and ACC?
« Reply #51 on: 02 July 2013, 20:56 »
According to this page from the manual which was downloaded from another forum, it seems the mode button next to the gear stick is standard but if DCC is fitted then "comfort" becomes an option.



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Thanks, that clears it all up and confirms that the gti I test drove did not have DCC fitted as I was told by the salesman  :angry:  Also VW should sit down and work out an easier set of acronyms as ACC, ADC and DCC all seem to get a bit mixed up  :grin:
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Re: DCC and ACC?
« Reply #52 on: 03 July 2013, 08:22 »
Dully: for BW34 you might not be able to change - your tracker status should move to "build week confirmed" this week and VWUK made out to me that the order is locked out from change about a week before the status update.

Seems a shame if certain dealerships have sold the ACC/DCC system on a lie (because they made out it was fitted on a demo vehicle and it wasn't). I found my dad's GTD without it more than adequate and I already have it.

Keeping it on sport (unless the road surface is awful) is a must on the Scirocco because unlike the MK7, I can't independently change the steering or throttle response. So for that £800 option now you are only gaining the adjustability of the suspension system, everything else previously tied to the system can be now be tweaked without it.
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Re: DCC and ACC?
« Reply #53 on: 03 July 2013, 08:33 »
I never understood it to be anything else though.  The driver profile settings were always standard on the Mk7, and allowed you to independently adjust steering and throttle response via the screen.  The £800 DCC option gives you an extra "Comfort" mode, and of course the dynamically adjusting dampers.  What I didn't know is if the physical switch was only on DCC equipped cars or if that was standard too.

I guess some people may have been misinformed though, wouldn't surprise me given the state of how things went when order books first opened!
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Re: DCC and ACC?
« Reply #54 on: 03 July 2013, 08:47 »
Dully: for BW34 you might not be able to change - your tracker status should move to "build week confirmed" this week and VWUK made out to me that the order is locked out from change about a week before the status update.

Seems a shame if certain dealerships have sold the ACC/DCC system on a lie (because they made out it was fitted on a demo vehicle and it wasn't). I found my dad's GTD without it more than adequate and I already have it.

Keeping it on sport (unless the road surface is awful) is a must on the Scirocco because unlike the MK7, I can't independently change the steering or throttle response. So for that £800 option now you are only gaining the adjustability of the suspension system, everything else previously tied to the system can be now be tweaked without it.

Yeah, i'm not going to change it even if i could at this stage, think the comfort option will suit the wife who moans continuously about the hard ride in her TT and my Mk5 Gt Sport 170, going in to see the saleman at the weekend though to discuss it, I dont actually think he intentionally lied I just think he did not know what he was on about  :grin: I have also back tracked on a few early road test videos and written tests and I dont think some of those people were clear on it, many of them mention the option giving you the ability to change steering etc etc when in fact you got that as standard, given the clear information at the start I would not have had it. Wonder what would happen if I go in and show the salesman that his demo car does not have DCC as he told me and I want to cancel my order  :shocked:
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Re: DCC and ACC?
« Reply #55 on: 03 July 2013, 09:24 »
Dully: for BW34 you might not be able to change - your tracker status should move to "build week confirmed" this week and VWUK made out to me that the order is locked out from change about a week before the status update.

Seems a shame if certain dealerships have sold the ACC/DCC system on a lie (because they made out it was fitted on a demo vehicle and it wasn't). I found my dad's GTD without it more than adequate and I already have it.

Keeping it on sport (unless the road surface is awful) is a must on the Scirocco because unlike the MK7, I can't independently change the steering or throttle response. So for that £800 option now you are only gaining the adjustability of the suspension system, everything else previously tied to the system can be now be tweaked without it.

Yeah, i'm not going to change it even if i could at this stage, think the comfort option will suit the wife who moans continuously about the hard ride in her TT and my Mk5 Gt Sport 170, going in to see the saleman at the weekend though to discuss it, I dont actually think he intentionally lied I just think he did not know what he was on about  :grin: I have also back tracked on a few early road test videos and written tests and I dont think some of those people were clear on it, many of them mention the option giving you the ability to change steering etc etc when in fact you got that as standard, given the clear information at the start I would not have had it. Wonder what would happen if I go in and show the salesman that his demo car does not have DCC as he told me and I want to cancel my order  :shocked:

Keeping the wife from nagging - always a good idea in principle, but she'll find something else to bend your ear about!  :grin:

If you're not changing then it's irrelevant but the standard ride is way better than the MK5 GT Sport on it's standard 17"ers. I had one of those and it had a very crashy ride over poorer surfaces. Same with my dad's MK5 GT 170TDI which he just traded in for his GTD - ride refinement has come on so much in 6 years.
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Re: DCC and ACC?
« Reply #56 on: 03 July 2013, 10:21 »
I never understood it to be anything else though.  The driver profile settings were always standard on the Mk7, and allowed you to independently adjust steering and throttle response via the screen.  The £800 DCC option gives you an extra "Comfort" mode, and of course the dynamically adjusting dampers.  What I didn't know is if the physical switch was only on DCC equipped cars or if that was standard too.

I guess some people may have been misinformed though, wouldn't surprise me given the state of how things went when order books first opened!

Not just the comfort mode, its comfort and sport.  So without it you get one suspension set up, with it you get three set ups and adaptive dampers.  You get the button by the gear stick as standard anyway but the menu it brings up won't have DCC options unless you spec'd it.

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Re: DCC and ACC?
« Reply #57 on: 03 July 2013, 10:28 »
Not just the comfort mode, its comfort and sport.  So without it you get one suspension set up, with it you get three set ups and adaptive dampers.  You get the button by the gear stick as standard anyway but the menu it brings up won't have DCC options unless you spec'd it.

Oh OK.  If the button is standard though on all GTIs/GTDs, what does it say/do on those without DCC?  As far as I know that button has three positions - Comfort, Normal and Sport.  If a car doesn't have DCC, it doesn't have comfort...  Maybe I'm completely missing the obvious!  :grin:
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Re: DCC and ACC?
« Reply #58 on: 03 July 2013, 10:33 »
Not just the comfort mode, its comfort and sport.  So without it you get one suspension set up, with it you get three set ups and adaptive dampers.  You get the button by the gear stick as standard anyway but the menu it brings up won't have DCC options unless you spec'd it.

Oh OK.  If the button is standard though on all GTIs/GTDs, what does it say/do on those without DCC?  As far as I know that button has three positions - Comfort, Normal and Sport.  If a car doesn't have DCC, it doesn't have comfort...  Maybe I'm completely missing the obvious!  :grin:

Maybe we're talking cross purposes here!  I mean the "mode" button by the gear stick.  All it does is bring up the "driver profile" selection on the Nav menu.  That has 5 choices (Sport, Normal, Comfort, Eco, Individual).  If there is no DCC spec'd then the suspension remains the same for all 5 choices, and in individual there is no drop down to change it.  The other stuff like throttle response, steering weight, aircon... changes whether you have DCC or not.

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Re: DCC and ACC?
« Reply #59 on: 03 July 2013, 10:38 »
Maybe we're talking cross purposes here!  I mean the "mode" button by the gear stick.  All it does is bring up the "driver profile" selection on the Nav menu.  That has 5 choices (Sport, Normal, Comfort, Eco, Individual).  If there is no DCC spec'd then the suspension remains the same for all 5 choices, and in individual there is no drop down to change it.  The other stuff like throttle response, steering weight, aircon... changes whether you have DCC or not.

Ah gotcha', so the mode button by the gear lever isn't a toggle between "Comfort, Normal and Sport", it's just a button that gives quick access to the on-screen menu.
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