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Offline monkeyhanger

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Re: DCC and ACC?
« Reply #40 on: 02 July 2013, 14:53 »
Ok ok lets back up a bit.  Here is what we need to know:

1) Confirm the "mode" button next to the gear stick is specific to the DCC, i.e. only fitted on cars with £800 DCC option.  Or is it just a driver profile selection button fitted to all cars as standard?

2) Does the "DCC" menu option appear in the menu unit only if you spec the £800 DCC option.  This would seem to be a no brainer, if you don't buy it you don't get it.  Yet, MH's Dad's car seems to have the option and he didn't spec it.

And presumably the ACC option in the picture posted earlier refers to the cruise control, because the DCC further up is the chassis control...

Perhaps the ACC=DCC (or not) issue has caused confusion with myself. He has ACC options but not DCC options in the menus. It would seem to me that if VW are now calling the chassis ACC set-up "DCC" in the menus and some of the cruise control functionality as "ACC" in the menus then my dad's car doesn't have ACC/DCC, but everyone has ADC and what VW are now calling "ACC" is a sub function of the system of ADC e.g. the cruise part of it as aopposed to the distance monitoring part of it.

That makes sense to me. Poxy acronyms. :evil:
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Re: DCC and ACC?
« Reply #41 on: 02 July 2013, 15:01 »
Perhaps the ACC=DCC (or not) issue has caused confusion with myself. He has ACC options but not DCC options in the menus. It would seem to me that if VW are now calling the chassis ACC set-up "DCC" in the menus and some of the cruise control functionality as "ACC" in the menus then my dad's car doesn't have ACC/DCC, but everyone has ADC and what VW are now calling "ACC" is a sub function of the system of ADC e.g. the cruise part of it as aopposed to the distance monitoring part of it.

That makes sense to me. Poxy acronyms. :evil:

Ah, I think you are right!  DCC is the chassis system, that is clear.  So if you didn't see DCC in your Dad's car all might be well in the world again.  haha

I'm not sure if ADC and ACC are interchangeable, like you say probably one is a sub unit of the other.  Personally I think ACC is the overall cruise system, and ADC is the radar sub unit of that.  So launch cars might still have ACC, but won't have ADC.

So, if this is all correct... did your Dad's car have the "mode" button by the gear stick?  I'm still unclear if that button is standard to select driver profile, or if it is specific to DCC equipped cars.

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Re: DCC and ACC?
« Reply #42 on: 02 July 2013, 15:03 »
3.26 mins in Mat video shows you the 'mode' DCC button

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYHJt5KCsyU

check this vid out and you can see that the option screen does not have ACC option as the picture that mike posted above
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Re: DCC and ACC?
« Reply #43 on: 02 July 2013, 15:03 »
There was a button down there by the stick for menu/driver profile stuff - can you see it in my photos (my pics won't load up properly when viewing this site from work)?
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Re: DCC and ACC?
« Reply #44 on: 02 July 2013, 15:08 »
check this vid out and you can see that the option screen does not have ACC option as the picture that mike posted above

Good spot!  So ACC only appears if the car has the ADC radar.

There was a button down there by the stick for menu/driver profile stuff - can you see it in my photos (my pics won't load up properly when viewing this site from work)?

I should have just checked your pics rather than asking! Sounds like that button is standard for the profiles and nothing to do with DCC then.  Another example of dealers getting confused then.  The test drive I had the button was indicated as evidence the car had the DCC fitted!

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Re: DCC and ACC?
« Reply #45 on: 02 July 2013, 17:47 »
Driver Profile Selection System? Found this quote on another website. If I can have this as standard and select from a number of modes I am still wondering what my £800 gives me  :cry:


"Standard on the GTI is the driver profile selection system to help achieve an efficient style of driving with four driving modes (five when in combination with the DCC adaptive chassis control): Eco, Sport, Normal, Individual and, in combination with DCC, Comfort."
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Re: DCC and ACC?
« Reply #46 on: 02 July 2013, 19:44 »
Driver Profile Selection System? Found this quote on another website. If I can have this as standard and select from a number of modes I am still wondering what my £800 gives me  :cry:


"Standard on the GTI is the driver profile selection system to help achieve an efficient style of driving with four driving modes (five when in combination with the DCC adaptive chassis control): Eco, Sport, Normal, Individual and, in combination with DCC, Comfort."

Driver profile selection alters the steering and throttle response mainly (amongst a few other things I'm sure), but has fixed suspension.  The £800 option gives you an extra "comfort" mode, and dynamically alters the dampers across ALL settings, independently in each corner of the car. This results in a car that rides/handles better than one with a fixed suspension setup.
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Re: DCC and ACC?
« Reply #47 on: 02 July 2013, 19:51 »
Driver Profile Selection System? Found this quote on another website. If I can have this as standard and select from a number of modes I am still wondering what my £800 gives me  :cry:


"Standard on the GTI is the driver profile selection system to help achieve an efficient style of driving with four driving modes (five when in combination with the DCC adaptive chassis control): Eco, Sport, Normal, Individual and, in combination with DCC, Comfort."


Driver profile selection alters the steering and throttle response mainly (amongst a few other things I'm sure), but has fixed suspension.  The £800 option gives you an extra "comfort" mode, and dynamically alters the dampers across ALL settings, independently in each corner of the car. This results in a car that rides/handles better than one with a fixed suspension setup.

Mmmmmmm that's what I was starting to think was the case and proves that the salesman had no idea what he was on about, if I had been explained all this clearly and understood that I would still get all the other adjustments for nothing then I might have not picked it and spent the £800 on something else, all I can say is that it better be good, dare not change the order in fear of BW34 being moved  :sad:
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Re: DCC and ACC?
« Reply #48 on: 02 July 2013, 19:59 »
By all accounts, the new DCC in the Mk7 GTI is very good indeed, giving you a good, composed ride, with the ability to have the suspension firmer for when you want a bit of fun, and softer for when you are around town and on the motorways.  On videos I've seen, you can clearly see the difference in suspension travel with it.
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Re: DCC and ACC?
« Reply #49 on: 02 July 2013, 20:05 »
By all accounts, the new DCC in the Mk7 GTI is very good indeed, giving you a good, composed ride, with the ability to have the suspension firmer for when you want a bit of fun, and softer for when you are around town and on the motorways.  On videos I've seen, you can clearly see the difference in suspension travel with it.

Yeah I've seen quite a lot of good press about it to be honest, the first test I ever read recommended it and the PP so I went for both. The car will be mostly driven by the mrs in the week as I do loads of miles around the country in my work horse (Mk5 GT Sport 170) and don't want to put 30,000 a year on the new gti, she does a short commute but is always moaning that the TT she drives is a hard ride so I will leave it in Comfort for her in the week  :grin:
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