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Offline ChrisJL

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DCC and ACC?
« on: 26 April 2013, 19:35 »
Hi All,

Sorry if this is a really stupid question. But I've been reading about the Adaptive Chassis Control and I've seen it referred to as ACC and also DCC, so I thought they were just different names for the same thing. However I have seen videos of people navigating the 'Driver Profile Select' and as well as the options for steering, engine, air conditioning, there is also an option for ACC and DCC so it leads me to believe they're not the same thing? Else why is there an option for both?

Can anyone shed any light on this as I've scowered the web for an answer to this and I can't seem to find one.

Thanks :)
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Re: DCC and ACC?
« Reply #1 on: 26 April 2013, 20:26 »
As far as I know the ACC and DCC refer to the same thing, the £795 option.  I believe this adds the option to choose the set up (comfort, normal and sport).  I don't think you get those options if you don't have ACC/DCC added.  If the choice of set up you have seen isn't part of the DCC menu it may be that getting DCC also adds some other options under a separate menu?

The naming confusion isn't helping, they should have stuck with DCC to avoid the similarity to aircon.  Personally I'd probably end up leaving it in normal the whole time so I'm saving my £800.  I don't want to mislead you so someone else can confirm what I say in case I'm wrong?

EDIT:
http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/technology/glossary/adaptive-chassis-control-acc
Seems clear the ACC/DCC is needed to add the three ride options mentioned.

EDIT2:
http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/technology/driving/driving-mode-selection
Now I am also confused.  Nothing on VW about DCC but now there is a DMS which seems to be on stock (but thats not clear) and sets the driving mode too, though presumably not the same as the ACC...

Can you share the link to the video where you saw both terms in the car menu??

EDIT3:
Success!
http://www.vwaudiforum.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?141816-Driver-Profile-Selection
Driver Profile Selection (DPS) is standard.
Adaptive Chassis Control (DCC) is an option that adds more options.
Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC) is standard on GTI (GTD too I think) and gives even more options.

VW themselves are confused though because the VWUK technical glossary link I posted in EDIT1 clearly calls the Adaptive Chassis Control ACC, but this is presumably an error.  Compare and contrast these two links to it:
http://en.volkswagen.com/en/innovation-and-technology/technical-glossary/adaptive_fahrwerksregelung_dcc.html
http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/technology/glossary/adaptive-chassis-control-acc
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Re: DCC and ACC?
« Reply #2 on: 26 April 2013, 20:46 »
Ahhh, that certainly explains it then :)!!

I hadn't seen the cruise control on the GTI be referred to as ACC.

Thank you very much for the comprehensive reply :)

I've been thinking ACC was adaptive chassis control and I've been searching the web to try and find what DCC meant. I just assumed that DCC was perhaps an old name for it and ACC was its rebadged name.

Thank you for ending my confusion, but it seems like you say that VW themselves are getting a little confused :)
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Re: DCC and ACC?
« Reply #3 on: 26 April 2013, 21:05 »
I'm sure when the Scirocco first came out the ACC was referred to as Dynamic Chasis Control (DCC).  That's maybe where that bit of naming confusion comes from.

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Re: DCC and ACC?
« Reply #4 on: 26 April 2013, 21:20 »
I've been thinking ACC was adaptive chassis control and I've been searching the web to try and find what DCC meant. I just assumed that DCC was perhaps an old name for it and ACC was its rebadged name.

Exactly, they are confused themselves.  The Chassis option is DCC and the Cruise option is ACC, but they confuse things by calling the Chassis option ACC from time to time, and most likely other sources then copy them making the same mistake.

I think they went with DCC to distinguish it from Aircon but why then call it "adaptive" instead of "dynamic"?  Calling cruise ACC makes things worse, but not sure when that term was first used so it may have come first.

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Re: DCC and ACC?
« Reply #5 on: 26 April 2013, 22:22 »
I'm sure when the Scirocco first came out the ACC was referred to as Dynamic Chasis Control (DCC).  That's maybe where that bit of naming confusion comes from.

Yes, think it was first called Dynamic Chassis Control.  Then, certainly by the later mk6's, it was being called Adaptive Chassis Control (ACC) and Cruise Control was just (CC) now they seem to have confused the issue by using ACC to both describe Adaptive Cruise Control and Adaptive Chassis Control!!
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Re: DCC and ACC?
« Reply #6 on: 26 April 2013, 22:47 »
Inside my 2009 Scirocco ACC (Adaptive Chassis Control) is called DCC (Dynamic Chassis Control). Why on earth they felt the need to change it ACC I'll never know.

Also confusing is ACC (Adaptive Cruise Control) because it works through the ADC (automatic distance control).

Sheesh... I'm done with all these acronyms :rolleyes:
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Re: DCC and ACC?
« Reply #7 on: 26 April 2013, 22:54 »
Inside my 2009 Scirocco ACC (Adaptive Chassis Control) is called DCC (Dynamic Chassis Control). Why on earth they felt the need to change it ACC I'll never know.

Also confusing is ACC (Adaptive Cruise Control) because it works through the ADC (automatic distance control).

Sheesh... I'm done with all these acronyms :rolleyes:

Oh yeah, forgot about ADC.............confused?  you will be!   ARGHHH
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Re: DCC and ACC?
« Reply #8 on: 27 April 2013, 10:23 »
Just to be clear on this too, "Dynamic Chasis Control" doesn't just give you additional options over-and-above the standard "Driver Profile Selection".  Normal with DCC is quite different to normal without DCC, because without it you only have one suspension setting for the entire car, regardless of profile.  With DCC, even in normal it is constantly monitoring and adjusting the suspension in tune with the profile selected, driving style and road conditions.
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Re: DCC and ACC?
« Reply #9 on: 27 April 2013, 10:45 »
Just to be clear on this too, "Dynamic Chasis Control" doesn't just give you additional options over-and-above the standard "Driver Profile Selection".  Normal with DCC is quite different to normal without DCC, because without it you only have one suspension setting for the entire car, regardless of profile.  With DCC, even in normal it is constantly monitoring and adjusting the suspension in tune with the profile selected, driving style and road conditions.

This is a very valid point.  I've said before on here that both my Sciroccos just stayed in Normal most of the time, but I've never driven a Scirocco without DCC.  So while I don't think I need it, it might have been the thing that made the Scirocco so good to drive.  On that basis driving a Golf with and without it is probably the only way you'll really know if it's for you.