Author Topic: revo stage 1 - it is worth it?  (Read 5189 times)

Offline candywhite12

  • Here all the time
  • ****
  • Posts: 365
revo stage 1 - it is worth it?
« on: 24 April 2013, 10:10 »
I was considering revo stage 1 on my 10/2009 gti (dsg) and would like to get your opinion before spending all this money on it.  Is it really worth it in terms of (a) extra power/performance, (b) torque, (c) consumption?  Does it make that much of a difference to how the car rides/feels/responds/consumes petrol that 700 euro is money well spent?


Any input, positive and negative, esp from people who have it tried and tested, will be much appreciated.

 
Wife's: mk8 TSI 1.4 RL, 5dr atlantic blue, DSG, Norfolk 17", pan s/r, leds
Now: mk7.5 TSI 1.4 RL, 5dr tornado red, DSG, Singapore 17", pan s/r, leds
Before: mk6 GTI 5dr candy white, DSG, Monza Shadow 18", s/r, bi-Xenons, DCC
Even before that: mk5 GT 5dr tornado red, manual, s/r

Offline Spartacus

  • GTI forum regular
  • ***
  • Posts: 166
Re: revo stage 1 - it is worth it?
« Reply #1 on: 24 April 2013, 13:28 »
I have REVO stage 1 on my ED30. I paid £500 so about the same and it has been well worth it. I also had some Tarox performance discs and pads fitted at the same time.

Yes of course I was expecting the power gain but was not expecting the way the car completely changed. The charachter of the engine is different, it sounds better and idles smoother. It is quite happy dawdling in town traffic and cruising. Its far too quick to say that is should have been this way from the factory but the driving experience is so much better you have to think that VW leave a lot of headroom in their engines.

REVO is supposed to be an aggressive map, not sure what that means, I suppose the gains are better than APR or Superchips but then the downside is the wear on components.

Its much quicker off the line but the real perfomanc gain is mid range, its still surprises me how it reacts like a bullet from a gun and just disappears down the road with me clinging to the steering wheel.

So no negatives from me, fuel consumption is even better !

If there are any downsides then it could be that Stage 1 is just the start of a slippery slope of mods. Exhaust, Air Intakes etc. I have decided to stop where I am. In my view Stage 1 has completed the car.

The day I had the Map done I was heading home and was being followed by a black Golf MK6 GTD with DRL's and foglights on. It was 2pm in the afternnon and sunny so you know the type !. He ( looked like an estage agent ) proceeded to glue himself to my bumper for several miles. Joining the M1 on the slip road he was still attached to my car so when I checked that the motorway was clear I could not resist trying my new toy for the first time. Within seconds I was at three figures and still going, looked in my mirror and I could still see his DRL's and fog lights way, way in the distance. Very childish and very satisfying ! I was laughing out loud for miles. Was even tempted to let him catch up so that I could do it again.

Mk6 GTi - returned to leasing company after 3 great years and replaced with :

Mk5 GTi - Edition 30 - Revo 1 and some tweaks - 310 bhp. Its a better car than the Mk6  - Now sold and replaced with :

Mk6 R - Rising Blue 5 Door. Won't be standard 270bhp for long

Family Car : Mercedes ML420 with 360 bhp
Looking at Porsche Macan as replacement

Offline candywhite12

  • Here all the time
  • ****
  • Posts: 365
Re: revo stage 1 - it is worth it?
« Reply #2 on: 24 April 2013, 13:39 »
Very helpful review mate, seems like you are really enjoying it.  I am also not interested in having stage 2 as that would mean the missus kicking me out the house  :grin:  Would you say Stage1  wears down specific components faster compared to a  factory GTI?  I don't want to be paying this amount of money now and then having to pay more and more money on components that wore down.  Did you notice any such abnormalities and increased costs compared to before you installed it?

Wife's: mk8 TSI 1.4 RL, 5dr atlantic blue, DSG, Norfolk 17", pan s/r, leds
Now: mk7.5 TSI 1.4 RL, 5dr tornado red, DSG, Singapore 17", pan s/r, leds
Before: mk6 GTI 5dr candy white, DSG, Monza Shadow 18", s/r, bi-Xenons, DCC
Even before that: mk5 GT 5dr tornado red, manual, s/r

Offline Spartacus

  • GTI forum regular
  • ***
  • Posts: 166
Re: revo stage 1 - it is worth it?
« Reply #3 on: 24 April 2013, 15:18 »
Have not seen any abnormalities or wear yet. I don't expect the front tyres to last 20,000 miles though !

Good review here of Superships remap here:http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/volkswagen/golf/17651/golf-gti-superchips

Mk6 GTi - returned to leasing company after 3 great years and replaced with :

Mk5 GTi - Edition 30 - Revo 1 and some tweaks - 310 bhp. Its a better car than the Mk6  - Now sold and replaced with :

Mk6 R - Rising Blue 5 Door. Won't be standard 270bhp for long

Family Car : Mercedes ML420 with 360 bhp
Looking at Porsche Macan as replacement

Offline candywhite12

  • Here all the time
  • ****
  • Posts: 365
Re: revo stage 1 - it is worth it?
« Reply #4 on: 24 April 2013, 16:53 »
Have not seen any abnormalities or wear yet. I don't expect the front tyres to last 20,000 miles though !

Good review here of Superships remap here:http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/volkswagen/golf/17651/golf-gti-superchips

That's interesting, didn't know you can actually do the upgrade by yourself.  Well, there are numerous options to choose from, I was interested in Revo because there is a rep in Cyprus that applies the upgrade.  Not sure about other manufacturers.
Wife's: mk8 TSI 1.4 RL, 5dr atlantic blue, DSG, Norfolk 17", pan s/r, leds
Now: mk7.5 TSI 1.4 RL, 5dr tornado red, DSG, Singapore 17", pan s/r, leds
Before: mk6 GTI 5dr candy white, DSG, Monza Shadow 18", s/r, bi-Xenons, DCC
Even before that: mk5 GT 5dr tornado red, manual, s/r

Offline mark@vorny.co.uk

  • GTI forum regular
  • ***
  • Posts: 136
Re: revo stage 1 - it is worth it?
« Reply #5 on: 24 April 2013, 20:07 »
Whilst I can't comment on the 'revo' in isolation, I had the Mk5 mapped and letterly the Mk6.

In my opinion it makes them the car it should always have been. Fantastic power, but the mid-range is phenomenal. Motorway driving can be hilarious as you can surprise a lot of folk without having to hunt up and down the gearbox.

The Mk5 did 55k miles with no map related issues.

The Mk6 hasn't done many miles yet

Wear is probably related to how you drive it, you don't get something for nothing. Tyre-wise there was more wear, but not alarmingly so. Economy wise, they still did/do high 30's on a run. Cane it and it suffers.

With a responsible re-mapper you should only ever see the advantages.

2012 GTi 3 door, DSG, Nav, Roof, Monza's. Candy White..... and it's the wife's.
2013 Abarth 595, 2013 911 C4S.

Offline candywhite12

  • Here all the time
  • ****
  • Posts: 365
Re: revo stage 1 - it is worth it?
« Reply #6 on: 24 April 2013, 21:05 »
With a responsible re-mapper you should only ever see the advantages.
[/quote]

so you are saying that 2 different remappers can do the remap in a different way?? I thought it was standard procedure no matter who applied the upgrade.
Wife's: mk8 TSI 1.4 RL, 5dr atlantic blue, DSG, Norfolk 17", pan s/r, leds
Now: mk7.5 TSI 1.4 RL, 5dr tornado red, DSG, Singapore 17", pan s/r, leds
Before: mk6 GTI 5dr candy white, DSG, Monza Shadow 18", s/r, bi-Xenons, DCC
Even before that: mk5 GT 5dr tornado red, manual, s/r

Offline mark@vorny.co.uk

  • GTI forum regular
  • ***
  • Posts: 136
Re: revo stage 1 - it is worth it?
« Reply #7 on: 24 April 2013, 21:17 »
Maps vary massively. A lot of the respected tuners spend an increasing amount of time putting right poor maps.

Use a trusted mapper, with a reputation. Many are agents and will use a developed map. Avoid the back street heroes.

I always use the same guy, he has done a number of cars for me and friends over the years and I trust him. It gives real piece of mind. Ask friends, ask on forums, you will get an idea who to avoid.

2012 GTi 3 door, DSG, Nav, Roof, Monza's. Candy White..... and it's the wife's.
2013 Abarth 595, 2013 911 C4S.

Offline mkviken

  • I live here
  • *****
  • Posts: 1,786
Golf GTI Clubsport S #237 Tornado red
Golf GTI 7.5 230 white silver

Offline candywhite12

  • Here all the time
  • ****
  • Posts: 365
Re: revo stage 1 - it is worth it?
« Reply #9 on: 25 April 2013, 08:15 »
now you all got me really confused  :laugh: bluefin is cheaper and you can DIY, revo is about 200 pounds more expensive and I need to find someone who knows what they are doing...
Wife's: mk8 TSI 1.4 RL, 5dr atlantic blue, DSG, Norfolk 17", pan s/r, leds
Now: mk7.5 TSI 1.4 RL, 5dr tornado red, DSG, Singapore 17", pan s/r, leds
Before: mk6 GTI 5dr candy white, DSG, Monza Shadow 18", s/r, bi-Xenons, DCC
Even before that: mk5 GT 5dr tornado red, manual, s/r