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Offline monkeyhanger

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Re: Stop/Start Tech & DSG
« Reply #20 on: 10 September 2013, 21:26 »
Dipping the clutch to start the car up again on  a stop makes the stop-start much more intuitive on the manual cars. By the time you dip the clutch, the car fires up again. On a DSG though, you immediately press the accelerator and nothing happens for a second.
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Re: Stop/Start Tech & DSG
« Reply #21 on: 10 September 2013, 21:38 »
Dipping the clutch to start the car up again on  a stop makes the stop-start much more intuitive on the manual cars. By the time you dip the clutch, the car fires up again. On a DSG though, you immediately press the accelerator and nothing happens for a second.

I agree.. On the DSG there is a slight split second delay when you hit the accelerator, which can be a bit unnerving at first especially on a busy junction where you need to a quick getaway.  However I've got use to it now... I kinda second guess when I need to set off & fire up the engine accordingly. Just takes getting use to.

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Re: Stop/Start Tech & DSG
« Reply #22 on: 10 September 2013, 21:48 »
Dipping the clutch to start the car up again on  a stop makes the stop-start much more intuitive on the manual cars. By the time you dip the clutch, the car fires up again. On a DSG though, you immediately press the accelerator and nothing happens for a second.

I agree.. On the DSG there is a slight split second delay when you hit the accelerator, which can be a bit unnerving at first especially on a busy junction where you need to a quick getaway.  However I've got use to it now... I kinda second guess when I need to set off & fire up the engine accordingly. Just takes getting use to.

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Re: Stop/Start Tech & DSG
« Reply #23 on: 12 September 2013, 22:27 »
Finding myself turning stop/start off most of the time at the moment.

When it is on I gently tap the accelerator first to prevent that nasty jolt at launch. I think it could have been done better. Auto-hold can be a bit of a nightmare when your drive is on a hill and you have to reverse down it too  :smiley:

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Re: Stop/Start Tech & DSG
« Reply #24 on: 13 September 2013, 10:04 »
Dipping the clutch to start the car up again on  a stop makes the stop-start much more intuitive on the manual cars. By the time you dip the clutch, the car fires up again. On a DSG though, you immediately press the accelerator and nothing happens for a second.

I agree.. On the DSG there is a slight split second delay when you hit the accelerator, which can be a bit unnerving at first especially on a busy junction where you need to a quick getaway.  However I've got use to it now... I kinda second guess when I need to set off & fire up the engine accordingly. Just takes getting use to.


That's not what happens tho'. A DSG car restarts when you take your foot off the brake, so by the time your foot has got to the throttle, it's ready to go. If you are waiting for a quick getaway from a busy junction, surely you would not have your foot on the brake as the Auto Hold would take care of that (therefore the engine would be running) but instead have it hovering over the throttle pedal?

Auto-hold can be a bit of a nightmare when your drive is on a hill and you have to reverse down it too 

In situations like this and manoeuvring in tight spaces, turning the Auto-hold off will allow it to creep just like a good old fashioned Auto, allowing you to control you speed with the brake pedal.
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Re: Stop/Start Tech & DSG
« Reply #25 on: 13 September 2013, 11:00 »
dubber36:
"That's not what happens tho'. A DSG car restarts when you take your foot off the brake, so by the time your foot has got to the throttle, it's ready to go. If you are waiting for a quick getaway from a busy junction, surely you would not have your foot on the brake as the Auto Hold would take care of that (therefore the engine would be running) but instead have it hovering over the throttle pedal?"

Strange??? You must have a different DSG system to me then.... Mine does NOT restart when you take the foot off the brake... It only fires up again when you step on the accelerator. That's when you get the slight delay.
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Re: Stop/Start Tech & DSG
« Reply #26 on: 13 September 2013, 11:39 »
Yeah turn the auto-hold off now for it, of course the first time I forgot I had and wondered why once I put it in park it started moving backwards  :smiley:


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Re: Stop/Start Tech & DSG
« Reply #27 on: 13 September 2013, 12:06 »
dubber36:
"That's not what happens tho'. A DSG car restarts when you take your foot off the brake, so by the time your foot has got to the throttle, it's ready to go. If you are waiting for a quick getaway from a busy junction, surely you would not have your foot on the brake as the Auto Hold would take care of that (therefore the engine would be running) but instead have it hovering over the throttle pedal?"

Strange??? You must have a different DSG system to me then.... Mine does NOT restart when you take the foot off the brake... It only fires up again when you step on the accelerator. That's when you get the slight delay.

Maybe it is different. My car is a 2011 Passat. I drove a new Passat Altrack recently, and that was just the same. Perhaps the MQB platform cars are different.
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Re: Stop/Start Tech & DSG
« Reply #28 on: 13 September 2013, 12:20 »
The auto-hold and stop/start stuff does work a bit differently in the MK7 than in older VW's, so that's probably where the confusion here lies. My MK6 GTD had "hill-hold" but it was a bit useless... it only held the car for a couple of seconds, only useful-ish if doing a hill start. The auto-hold in in the MK7 is much cleverer.
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Re: Stop/Start Tech & DSG
« Reply #29 on: 13 September 2013, 13:16 »
Yeah turn the auto-hold off now for it, of course the first time I forgot I had and wondered why once I put it in park it started moving backwards  :smiley:

Shouldn't a deadbolt engage in park locking the transmission and wheels? :undecided: Or do you mean neutral?