Possible New Engine Needed?

[Obbzi]

Listen for the chain type rattle against the case for a few seconds before the oil pressure tensions the chain.
Ignore the other noises.

Not exactly sure what I'm listening out for though  I better get in touch with my local indy garage

[Poached]

Listen for the chain type rattle against the case for a few seconds before the oil pressure tensions the chain.
Ignore the other noises.

Not exactly sure what I'm listening out for though  I better get in touch with my local indy garage

Pretty much as those youtube videos sound in the thread.

As the engine cranks you should hear chatter like a brief whine from the chain drive before it settles down.

The whine is fairly distinct and brief. You may hear it every startup after the first one but it's usually much shorter duration and less perceptible to the ear if you aren't listening for it.

This is all anecdotal and it hasn't been confirmed whether this is actually a sign or not as far as I'm aware.

[Snoopy]

The ratchet on the tensioner HOLDs the tension on the chain until oil pressure is present. (During cold start up)

The tensioner drops back onto its ratchet after oil preasure reduces (a while after engine turn off)

Its the tensioner ratchet that fails releasing tension.



The BMW tensioner version is different but listen to this mini
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCj4vBnUDN8&feature=youtube_gdata_playerSent from Samsung Mobile
Listen to the chain been slack and hitting therefore rattling against the plastic cover and guides and the chain moving about as its slack.Thats to show the type of noise only. Ita different to a vw one as the vw one tensions with oil pressure so reving a vw will just tighteb the chain with oil pressure.

I dont know how else to explain it. Its a chain like on a bicycle the noise it makes when slack and rattling against a guard or something. A metal chain against a plastic cover..

[Obbzi]

Snoopy and poached, thanks for your help guys!

When I'm feeling brave I will start my car and video it so you can give me your opinions.

Thanks God for the work van at the minute 

[Jimmgc51]

So over the last few days I have been listening to my engine more and there seems to be a definite rattle (as mentioned above) only for a few seconds on start up then its gone.

I will try and post a vid!!

So I decided to ring VW CC (yes I know absolute waste of time) however I just wanted something documented and so I explained the issue at hand to be told "There is no issue" which I agreed for how many GTI's sold to how many are failing fair enough however some ARE failing!

Anyhow just thought Id give an update just at least if mine does go then VW have something on record that I have brought it up and its been noted that at the last service I mentioned the engine was rough starting to be told its fine, may help with any future claim.

[RocketRossUK]

Can a few people listen to min and see what they think, it was from a cold start this morning.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sK9c96U1GHk

To be honest, it doesnt sound ultra smooth ( which the TSI never does) But doesnt sound no where near as bad as a lot of timing chain sound on YouTube.

Let us know what you guys think....

[Snoopy]

Stick your head near the engine cover during start up.
. That could be injector noise as mine are very noisy especially the middle two it scarred the sh!t out of me when I did mine the other morning. Then moved my ear near different locations and found it was from the centre of the engine. Not the plastic chain cover on the left.

[RocketRossUK]

Stick your head near the engine cover during start up.
. That could be injector noise as mine are very noisy especially the middle two it scarred the sh!t out of me when I did mine the other morning. Then moved my ear near different locations and found it was from the centre of the engine.

So do you think mine sound pretty normal? Which side of the engine is the chain on? the left?

[Snoopy]

The left that black plastic cover on the side of the engine. The drivers side.
Behind the oil filter and next to the dipstick.

[Snoopy]

That first couple of seconds while the oil pressure builds is when you have to listen.
If im honest im not sure either way by your video. Its hard to tell from a video with all the other noises this engine makes.