Possible New Engine Needed?

[Snoopy]

You would think since vw dont want to recall and replace tensioners they would at least do a software fix.

This would check the timing and disengage the starter motor not allowing it to turn over the engine destroy and mashing resulting in the entire engine needing replacment.

That way it would only cost vw time to retime the engine and a new tensioner when it goes wrong not an entire engine!!! Plus fitting time..

[RocketRossUK]

You would think since vw dont want to recall and replace tensioners they would at least do a software fix.

This would check the timing and disengage the starter motor not allowing it to turn over the engine destroy and mashing resulting in the entire engine needing replacment.

That way it would only cost vw time to retime the engine and a new tensioner when it goes wrong not an entire engine!!! Plus fitting time..

Very good idea Snoopy, if only you  could get this message to the R&D or Tech team, im sure it wont be too hard.

Is it eventually going to happen to every 09 / 10 plate or do you think its just random.

[Snoopy]

I dont know.
What I do know is everyone thats seen the tensioner design who has mechanical experience understands why they fail.

My previous post is one of the ways I would as an R&D engineer myself tackle the situation. A simple software upload at the dealers during service would be no hardship.
But 2 years or more down the line all they have done is revise the tensioner design a few times. That may reduce the situation of it failing when fitted to newer cars but what about the older ones out there. It seems that they are not bothered about their reputation.
I wonder whats fitted to the mk7!

I still find it unbelievable that people find it acceptable to pay 1000 pound of their OWN money to replace an engine when its a design fault that caused it.
Never mind the incompatence of alot of main dealers technicians from my own experience I know I would not trust 99% of them to be able to dismantle then re assemble the entire front end of a GTI correctly..

[Jimmgc51]

Just thought I'd add mines alright May 09 GTI 55,000, for now!!

I have mentioned it to the dealer but same response, they know nothing about it so I'm just listening out for any change in engine sound although this has left me feeling a little paranoid that every other little sound I hear coming from the engine its the chain ha ha

I did read somewhere when I was researching this that there is a service hole with a rub plug and this is used to hold the chain back during a service or repair when the mechanics are working on it. And so looking through this hole you can see the state the tensioner is in. It has 4 notches apparently and if its on the fourth then its going to go.

 Unsure if this is true or not and so maybe someone with a bit more knowledge could back it up?!?

[RocketRossUK]

Just thought I'd add mines alright May 09 GTI 55,000, for now!!

I have mentioned it to the dealer but same response, they know nothing about it so I'm just listening out for any change in engine sound although this has left me feeling a little paranoid that every other little sound I hear coming from the engine its the chain ha ha

I did read somewhere when I was researching this that there is a service hole with a rub plug and this is used to hold the chain back during a service or repair when the mechanics are working on it. And so looking through this hole you can see the state the tensioner is in. It has 4 notches apparently and if its on the fourth then its going to go.

 Unsure if this is true or not and so maybe someone with a bit more knowledge could back it up?!?

Im the same, fingers crossed for every cold start in the morning....Its no way to live and enjoy your car.

The 3 seconds on start up isnt exactly quite, be then is it suppose to be? No real idea what the problem sounds like and othing to compare it to

[Snoopy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqFLYpPUJ7g&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Probably sounds like that.

Or

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCLSXCO3NU0&feature=youtube_gdata_player



Type in tsi engine rattle into youtube theres lots of videos sadly.

[Poached]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqFLYpPUJ7g&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Probably sounds like that.

Or

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCLSXCO3NU0&feature=youtube_gdata_player



Type in tsi engine rattle into youtube theres lots of videos sadly.

Do you have any cold start up chatter?

[RocketRossUK]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqFLYpPUJ7g&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Probably sounds like that.

Or

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCLSXCO3NU0&feature=youtube_gdata_player



Type in tsi engine rattle into youtube theres lots of videos sadly.

Do you have any cold start up chatter?

Can some one post up a normal start up. Im really not sure how bad mine is or isnt. Both my MK5 an MK6 have never had silky start ups, I thought it was just a FSI & TSI trate.

Im going to record min and you guys can judge. ( i follow good practice by turning the key to click one, wait for lights to go out and then start her up fully, do other people do that? Just to let all the senors test)

[Obbzi]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqFLYpPUJ7g&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Probably sounds like that.

Or

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCLSXCO3NU0&feature=youtube_gdata_player



Type in tsi engine rattle into youtube theres lots of videos sadly.

Mine sounds a bit like that  59 plate with 50k miles now 

[Snoopy]

Listen for the chain type rattle against the case for a few seconds before the oil pressure tensions the chain.
Ignore the other noises.