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Re: mk3 20v more power please
« Reply #20 on: 25 March 2013, 12:17 »
Some company's make big claims to get customers

I'm a big fan of badger 5 but even his over priced TIP which claims super BHP increase made only 2
BHP on a friends 20vt.. Same rolling road same day tested
On both

That's my 2p  :grin:
  


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Re: mk3 20v more power please
« Reply #21 on: 25 March 2013, 12:23 »
A tip can only flow more, if the rest of the set up is not restricted from that flow on the current tip then a bigger one wont make a difference as it doesn't need more flow

But the b5 tip has proven to have more flow which means it has more potential doesn't make it a magic piece of silicone which will give you more bhp  :smiley:

Both r-tech don't give silly figures or do lots of promoting as the majority of the promoting is done by happy customers who have had other tuners maps removed and theirs placed on instead of.


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Re: mk3 20v more power please
« Reply #22 on: 25 March 2013, 12:28 »
You also say it was a 2bhp peak enhancement but what about average hp/lbft gain and was it mapped for the increased airflow? 


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Re: mk3 20v more power please
« Reply #23 on: 25 March 2013, 15:20 »
How can the badger tip flow more when the inlet of the turbo is still tiny, meaning it can only accept the same amount of flow no mattwr how huge the tip is ( do you get me?)

I made my own tip for my S3 engine which has the audi Rs2 turbo, It has a bigger inlet than the tiny ko3 turbos and ko4's

My too is big all the way to the turbo, the exact size if the turbo inlet
I made this by using a silicone tip and metal pipe work, works a charm
  


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Re: mk3 20v more power please
« Reply #24 on: 25 March 2013, 15:50 »
The badger tip is large bore and the same size all te way through where as a lot of others decrease in diameter.

I not sayin you can't make one just as good but many people prefer to buy something off the shelf


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Re: mk3 20v more power please
« Reply #25 on: 25 March 2013, 15:59 »
Your not grasping what I'm saying

WHAT IS THE POINT IN HAVING A OVER SIZE TIP RIGHT UP TO THE TURBO WHEN THE TURBO STILL HAS THE SAME TINY INLET BORE ON ITS HOUSING  ? haha

In other words, the turbo can only accept the same air no matter what size the tip is near the inlet
  


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Re: mk3 20v more power please
« Reply #26 on: 25 March 2013, 16:07 »
Yes I know but the k04s limits were not being reached with smaller inlets pipes as the flow had reduced too much by the time it had reached the turbo.


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Re: mk3 20v more power please
« Reply #27 on: 25 March 2013, 16:22 »
I fail to see how as a silicone tip is the correct bore so flow will be fine
The B5 tips have the same tiny hole as any other silicone tip anyway, in the form of that metal adapter
Turbo can only take as much air as its inlet will let it regardless of how oversized the tip is near the bottom

Not convinced  :undecided:
  


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Re: mk3 20v more power please
« Reply #28 on: 25 March 2013, 17:27 »
If that is your theory then make a tip that reduces from 80 to 56mm straight after maf an stays 56 all the way to the turbo and see if it performs aswell as the badger5 unit....it won't
The less restrictive the better the less the tip resticts the airflow the better  :smiley:


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Re: mk3 20v more power please
« Reply #29 on: 25 March 2013, 17:59 »
But the Badger 5 Versus stock only achieved 2 bhp on this application... measured on same day same rolling road so perfect test.

thats not a lot for what it costs, and TBH normal silicone tips are not restrictive

As i say, Tubro cant flow no more than its inlet, make your tip as big as a dustbin, still wont get more air through  the inlet on turbo will it ? 
  


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