Original VW logo.

[Mr Blue]

KDF before that.

[Thom89]

I'm pretty well informed actually.

you may as well be saying that anything that came out of Germany in the 30's and 40's has a 'dark' history.

Pretty much yes!

And a quote from Wiki, which I knew already...

"Volkswagen was originally founded in 1937 by the Nazi trade union, the German Labour Front (Deutsche Arbeitsfront).[3] In the early 1930s German auto industry was still largely composed of luxury models, and the average German rarely could afford anything more than a motorcycle. As a result only one German out of 50 owned a car. Seeking a potential new market, some car makers began independent "peoples' car" projects – Mercedes' 170H, Adler's AutoBahn, Steyr 55, Hanomag 1,3L, among others"

And not forgetting the massive slave labour that was put to use in the factory!

I really don't think that you could get any "Darker" than Germanys Industrial past, on any level, anywhere else in the world!

Thom

[jimmydub]

And a quote from Wiki, which I knew already...

"Volkswagen was originally founded in 1937 by the Nazi trade union, the German Labour Front (Deutsche Arbeitsfront).[3] In the early 1930s German auto industry was still largely composed of luxury models, and the average German rarely could afford anything more than a motorcycle. As a result only one German out of 50 owned a car. Seeking a potential new market, some car makers began independent "peoples' car" projects – Mercedes' 170H, Adler's AutoBahn, Steyr 55, Hanomag 1,3L, among others"

not too sure what's 'dark' about this paragraph???

And not forgetting the massive slave labour that was put to use in the factory!

i knew you were going to bring this up. of course no other 'civilised' nation in the west (or anywhere for that matter) has used slave labour in the past. And of course no one in the east still does...

slave labour was always par for the course in any developing society.

I really don't think that you could get any "Darker" than Germanys Industrial past, on any level, anywhere else in the world!

no comment...

[Thom89]

And a quote from Wiki, which I knew already...

"Volkswagen was originally founded in 1937 by the Nazi trade union, the German Labour Front (Deutsche Arbeitsfront).[3] In the early 1930s German auto industry was still largely composed of luxury models, and the average German rarely could afford anything more than a motorcycle. As a result only one German out of 50 owned a car. Seeking a potential new market, some car makers began independent "peoples' car" projects – Mercedes' 170H, Adler's AutoBahn, Steyr 55, Hanomag 1,3L, among others"

not too sure what's 'dark' about this paragraph???

And not forgetting the massive slave labour that was put to use in the factory!

i knew you were going to bring this up. of course no other 'civilised' nation in the west (or anywhere for that matter) has used slave labour in the past. And of course no one in the east still does...

slave labour was always par for the course in any developing society.

I really don't think that you could get any "Darker" than Germanys Industrial past, on any level, anywhere else in the world!

no comment...

We are worlds apart!

Thom

[jimmydub]

i concur. we'll agree to disagree shall we

[Thom89]

i concur. we'll agree to disagree shall we

Yes!

Thom

[Mr Blue]

A few Polish people I worked with in the past hated the vw brand because of the link to hitler.

[clipperjay]

A term I use quite a lot! GODWIN'S LAW
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_Law
Is it dark these days NO
"History is used to learn from, rather repeat the same mistakes History teaches us"

VW is one of the great things that came out of Germany and Economics.
 

[Thom89]

VW is one of the great things that came out of Germany and Economics.
 

Good point Jay, and no one is disputing that VW are an inspirational company, and have been for many years. I also hear what you say about "Godwins Law" that I have heard of before, but I'm now better informed through the Wiki link that you provided

However, the OP made a direct observation that the early VW emblem, resembled the "German Cross"
"I never knew the original logo looked.. So... Weird. It looks very much like a German cross"
I hope I answered his question honestly, and he can see why the early Logo was designed like it was. and form his own opinion, with the links provided

Thom

[Agreeable Slick]

Wikipedia - The font of the internets facts.







The above statement might be completely contrived and made of no factual information whatsoever, but I've submitted it now and you lot can't do squat about it..... Ner ner Hitler ner.